romanian jets in world war two, seen on an site

i saw this on some web site and i think it cannot be true. they said there that Hitler was willing to give romanians plans to built an jet fighter that"s a big lie . Here are some pictures
[img=http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2126/henricoanda3iw6.th.jpg]

Virulent fantasy combined with acute misinformation.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on January 01, 2009 12:53 pm

This is where the original came from. It's a " What If" and nothing else.

http://www.skyraider3d.com/

There is an older topic at below link


http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?sh...nian%20jet&st=0

And in that link I wrote:

But in the real world the things were so secretive, that when the Italians, including Mussolini, proudly made propaganda around the successful flight of the thermo-jet designed by Caprini (the flights were in July 1940), they did not know that their good ally Germany tested in flight a real turbojet almost one year earlier (in August 1939).

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I saw some pictures on www.luft46.com . They are not misinformations... only fantasy and talent.

Iama

no that`a not the site. the sie was something related of some iron guard fans. but that`s the picture ok. and i sid same thing pure fantasy. No normal german would give the romanians to bild an jet at that time. If i remember well they did not want to giwe us the bmw engine to put it on Iar 80 not to say the licence for DB 605 and/or Bf 109. right?

www.luft46.com was the original site where it was posted. I know that for sure. It was probably copied after that on other sites.

The reason why the Germans did not "give us" those engines was not becasue they were mean, it was simply because they needed them for their own aircraft.

Radu

Wrong. The licence rights for the Bf 109G and the DB 605 engine was given to Rumania.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on January 08, 2009 11:03 am

but was not a full licence? or? I think saw in a book (Romanian Airforce during WWII by Medin Robanescu And Teodor Liviu Morosanu) that close to the end of war romanians were canibalising the bf 109 for parts. those that were not taken by the russians. and if we had the licence why we did not produce the parts that we needed. Ies I remember that Bf 109 was built at IAR but if I remember well from parts supplied by the germans. sorry if i`m wrong somewhere , this is what I recall from my readings.

"Cannibalising for parts" was practiced by everyone in every theatre of operations. It was often easier to do that than go to the quartermaster, ask for an engine and wait for it to be delivered.
In as far as I know, the Romanians are still "cannibalising aircraft for parts" today.
Radu

no that ,is not what i meant to say.they were doing thins in Romania .They were searching for abandoned german Bf 109 to take the parts they needed to fix some planes for the western front. Remember that russians took all of our planes that were in repairing shops in Bucharest or other place.

False!
The Soviets (not Russians) didn't take Romanian planes, only the German ones we captured. But not all, some were hastly overpainted with Romanian national insignia, thus remaining in country (remember that Fw-190 with Michael's cross?).

Regarding Bf109G production under license, it did happen, regardless what you remember reading
It was discussed before on the froum:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=4313&hl=

well abut the license you were right but about the confiscated planes I think you are wrong because too many people are saying that soviets were taking them even with Romanian insignia. Btw what happen with that Fw 190 ? I have the article right in front of me . In this article it says :"aircraft's repaired at ASAM Bucharest were taken by the soviets as war capture and sent USSR whiteout allowing that even a small number to be sent on the front line". quoted from Aeromagazin no 4/2002 written by professor Vasile Tudor

That's a false statement. Unless the words "some" is somewhere in the sentence.

Also, most people tend to forget that the German manufactured warplanes used by Corpul 1 aerian on the Eastern Front were ALL German property, despite the markings they were carrying, loaned to the Rumanians only to fight the Soviets.

Gen. Dénes