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johnny_bi |
Posted: January 18, 2009 10:29 pm
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Sergent major Group: Members Posts: 214 Member No.: 6 Joined: June 18, 2003 |
After reading Ana Pauker's biography on Wikipedia (not that Wikipedia would be the most reliable source of information) only one question left to me:
Did she do any bad thing during the period she was in power? |
Dénes |
Posted: January 19, 2009 06:23 am
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4368 Member No.: 4 Joined: June 17, 2003 |
Yes. She kept the Communist system alive and well.
Gen. Dénes This post has been edited by Dénes on January 19, 2009 06:27 am |
C-2 |
Posted: January 19, 2009 12:20 pm
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
And wasn't good looking either.
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MMM |
Posted: January 25, 2009 09:56 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Oh, please! She was the perfect incarnation of the commie b**ch, the red (she also had red hair ) woman-comissar and all other archetypes of evil (including the fact that she was of Jewish descendance), as seen by "people". She had nothing to say in the defense of her husband when he was purged by Stalin in 1938; she was so sad when Stalin died, although she was in prison then and she knew (as well as her enemies, like Gheorghiu-Dej) that if Stalin lived more, she would have not!
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MMM |
Posted: January 25, 2009 09:58 am
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Actually, she did not "just" keep the system, she was among the first to implement it in Ro., unfortunately... -------------------- M
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New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: January 25, 2009 02:52 pm
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
I think the comment about Jewish descendance has nothing to do with her actions or can you tell us otherwise? Kevin in Deva. |
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MMM |
Posted: January 25, 2009 06:06 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
I was so sure I shouldn't have said that... Except the fact that she came from a very poor family (her mother was a seamstress), her "Jewishness" never manifested. Perhaps as a handicap: supposedly, Stalin told her once why she wasn't chosen as secretary of RomComParty - she was a woman, jewish, intellectual. And after her demise, in the "national" phase of communism, she was also blamed for being of jew descendance.
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New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: January 25, 2009 06:59 pm
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
Please tell me, how does a person "manifest their Jewishness"?
Kevin in Deva. |
Imperialist |
Posted: January 25, 2009 07:11 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 |
By properly observing the Sabbath for example? -------------------- I
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C-2 |
Posted: January 25, 2009 07:13 pm
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
I do not agree,Imperiaslist.
The Sabat is same as Sunday is for Cristians,and friday for muslims. Keeping the sabat in "nothin fancy". |
MMM |
Posted: January 26, 2009 05:37 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Back to Annie: she told many times (as the good communist that she was) that she was atheist - "dialectic materialism" I believe it was the name... She was no more Jewish than Gheorghiu-Dej Orthodox. Is that OK now?
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New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: January 26, 2009 08:50 am
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
Well, please try to refrain from placing statements or comments
that is incorrect or cannot be verified at source in your posts, as it gives a slant to your posting, that could be taken for Anti-Jewish sentiment. Some people believe everything posted on the net and offer it as proof, to others that their opinions are correct. Kevin in Deva. |
cainele_franctiror |
Posted: January 26, 2009 09:48 am
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I think she was:
-first woman who became a Minister in Romania -first woman in Europe (in the world?) who became a Minister of Foreign Affairs |
MMM |
Posted: January 26, 2009 12:50 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
re: ranger: I already stated that. It is getting annoying now, and if you (nothing personal, you realise that) would have known a little more about the history of communism in Ro., you would have most definitely had another perspective. More than 3/4 of the first commies were alogens (of russian, hungarian, german, polish, ucrainian and even bulgarian origin, of course of other religions, too); only when entering the stage of "national communism" (now this is something to laugh at, as communism denied the very concept of nations), the leader (Gh. Gh.-Dej) tried to lay the blame on the foreigners, even better if they were jews. So, read Vladimir Tismăneanu's books (even his father's name was Tismeneţki) about the subject and THEN speak about anti-semitism. Of which I believe myself to be as far as possible. Or you were thinking about my affirmations (somehow unclear, I admit) in the light of the new Israeli-Palestinian conflicts, perhaps...
re: sniper-dog : it is entirely true, but she should have been the first woman to lead a communist party in the world - which she hasn't, for the exact reasons I mentioned before (cf. Stalin, at least). -------------------- M
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New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: January 26, 2009 03:28 pm
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
I was saying how your posts come across to an English speaking person,
with the way you worded them, if you have a problem with what I wrote, then perhaps you need to practice your English language construction more. Kevin in Deva. |
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