Romanian Military History Forum - Part of Romanian Army in the Second World War Website



Pages: (3) [1] 2 3   ( Go to first unread post ) Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

> Dennis Deletant - Aliatul uitat, Have any of you read it?
MMM
Posted: March 17, 2009 04:03 pm
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1463
Member No.: 2323
Joined: December 02, 2008



Has anybody read that book yet? I know Deletant wrote some stuff about the history of communism in Romania, but this seems to be a well-documented book on Antonescu (well, not only, but he's the forgotten ally) and the Romanian-German alliance.
Which brings me to something maybe more suitable for general discussion: how competent do you think foreign writers/historians are? I mean, they may be not biased (don't have tri-coloured goggles, as somebody said on this forum), but also may lack some knowledge accesible only to Romanians (or at least Romanian-speaking researchers)?


--------------------
M
PMEmail PosterUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
Radub
Posted: March 17, 2009 06:30 pm
Quote Post


General de corp de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1670
Member No.: 476
Joined: January 23, 2005



QUOTE (MMM @ March 17, 2009 04:03 pm)
Has anybody read that book yet? I know Deletant wrote some stuff about the history of communism in Romania, but this seems to be a well-documented book on Antonescu (well, not only, but he's the forgotten ally) and the Romanian-German alliance.
Which brings me to something maybe more suitable for general discussion: how competent do you think foreign writers/historians are? I mean, they may be not biased (don't have tri-coloured goggles, as somebody said on this forum), but also may lack some knowledge accesible only to Romanians (or at least Romanian-speaking researchers)?

Dennis Deletant is very close to Romania in heart and spirit.
He speaks Romanian fluently without any accent.
I have no doubt about his "good intentions" towards Romania and all things Romanian.
He is also a very good researcher and a respected academic, so he knows what he is doing. Google him, there is plenty out there about him.
Radu
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
MMM
Posted: March 17, 2009 07:06 pm
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1463
Member No.: 2323
Joined: December 02, 2008



I know all that, but I was surprised to find out he's interested in the ww2 years...
I managed to put my hands on the book and I'll even read it these days! smile.gif laugh.gif


--------------------
M
PMEmail PosterUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
Dénes
Posted: March 17, 2009 07:33 pm
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 4368
Member No.: 4
Joined: June 17, 2003



I have the book in its original edition, in English.

I read it several years ago. I remember that I was somewhat disappointed, because the author tackled the issue more from the political, and not military, perspective. Also, there are gaps in the story line. Nevertheless, it's a refence book.

As for foreign authors, they indeed can be (more) impartial and unbiased than local ones - with some exceptions, of course, from both sides. Working knowledge of Rumanian is a must, though, as is a perspective on Rumanian history and people, in general.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on March 17, 2009 07:36 pm
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Victor
Posted: March 17, 2009 07:37 pm
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 4350
Member No.: 3
Joined: February 11, 2003



I also have the book, but is under many more that await to be read. Given its more political nuance, I don't think I will read it any time soon. Probably next year.
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
MMM
Posted: March 17, 2009 07:57 pm
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1463
Member No.: 2323
Joined: December 02, 2008



I found in its first pages a refference to "Third Axis, Fourth Ally", by Axworthy. Is it worthy? smile.gif


--------------------
M
PMEmail PosterUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
Victor
Posted: March 18, 2009 07:23 am
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 4350
Member No.: 3
Joined: February 11, 2003



QUOTE (MMM @ March 17, 2009 09:57 pm)
I found in its first pages a refference to "Third Axis, Fourth Ally", by Axworthy. Is it worthy? smile.gif

It's the best published English language source on the Romanian Army in WWII. In some respects it's even better than many Romanian language works.
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Radub
Posted: March 18, 2009 09:45 am
Quote Post


General de corp de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1670
Member No.: 476
Joined: January 23, 2005



QUOTE (MMM @ March 17, 2009 07:57 pm)
Is it worthy?

Yes it is. smile.gif
Radu
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Cantacuzino
Posted: March 18, 2009 12:01 pm
Quote Post


Host
Group Icon

Group: Hosts
Posts: 2328
Member No.: 144
Joined: November 17, 2003



QUOTE
I found in its first pages a refference to "Third Axis, Fourth Ally", by Axworthy. Is it worthy? 


Worthy but hard to find dry.gif
PM
Top
Dénes
Posted: March 18, 2009 12:21 pm
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 4368
Member No.: 4
Joined: June 17, 2003



Recently, it has been re-released in a soft cover edition.

Gen. Dénes
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
MMM
Posted: March 18, 2009 04:04 pm
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1463
Member No.: 2323
Joined: December 02, 2008



QUOTE
hard to find

Actually, I found it on the Universitary Library in Iasi. So I'll photocopy it...


This post has been edited by MMM on April 07, 2009 02:06 pm


--------------------
M
PMEmail PosterUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
MMM
Posted: March 26, 2009 11:34 am
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1463
Member No.: 2323
Joined: December 02, 2008



QUOTE (Dénes @ March 17, 2009 07:33 pm)
gaps in the story line

For example, the Battle of Odessa or the SU offensive in august 1944, right?


--------------------
M
PMEmail PosterUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
MaxFax
  Posted: April 07, 2009 11:15 am
Quote Post


Plutonier
*

Group: Members
Posts: 255
Member No.: 7
Joined: June 18, 2003



QUOTE
Worthy but hard to find 

Not quite.
QUOTE
Recently, it has been re-released in a soft cover edition.

Right !!
You may buy it directly from the editor:
http://www.hailerpublishing.com/3rdaxis.html
PM
Top
MMM
Posted: April 08, 2009 11:29 am
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1463
Member No.: 2323
Joined: December 02, 2008



Back to Dennis Deletant: for all of you who have read the book: what is your oppinion about the Jewish "problem" as presented in there?


--------------------
M
PMEmail PosterUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
Victor
Posted: April 08, 2009 01:55 pm
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 4350
Member No.: 3
Joined: February 11, 2003



QUOTE (MMM @ April 08, 2009 01:29 pm)
Back to Dennis Deletant: for all of you who have read the book: what is your oppinion about the Jewish "problem" as presented in there?

Again. There are already existing topics on this subject. Use them! Don't go offtopic into this one.
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

Topic Options Pages: (3) [1] 2 3  Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

 






[ Script Execution time: 0.0087 ]   [ 14 queries used ]   [ GZIP Enabled ]