Romanian aces of WWI

Zivjo Denes!

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This is what Csaba Becze wrote about Lasi's victories: \"The River Skumbi is in Albania and its' scores were shared (many times the collective scores were confirmed individually as a full kill).\"

Yes, I have checked my old map and Skumbi River is Shkumbin River. The lattest is just a correct Albanian spelling. Csaba has of course right. They were most probably shared victories. Lasi's birth place was Katy, Bacs-Bodrog, according the Aerodrome.Com. I think this place is situated today in Vojwodina (Serbia).

Check the link: http://www.genealogie33.org/pspield/dat124.htm

Don't know why I have said he is a Magyar from Slovakia. Probably I have mistaken him for Tahy or Fejes.

The surname Lasi sounded in my ears a bit Romanian, doesn't it? And besides that there are Romanians living in Vojwodina too, so he could be a Romanian. Only my two cents on this. :rollroll:

Please let me know when you will find anything about ethnic Romanian pilots in k.u.k. Fliegertruppen in WW1. I think they deserved a word or two here. Probably those who survived joined the new Romanian Air Force.

BTW: I just noticed you have copied my message on your forum! Can I post some replies too?

lp,

Klemen

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Lasi's birth place was Katy, Bacs-Bodrog, according the Aerodrome.Com. I think this place is situated today in Vojwodina (Serbia).

Yes, Káty is currently in Vojvodina, Serbia (it's current name is Kach).

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Check the link:http://www.genealogie33.org/pspield/dat124.htm

I know. It was I, who gave the link in my previous post.

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Please let me know when you will find anything about ethnic Romanian pilots in k.u.k. Fliegertruppen in WW1. I think they deserved a word or two here. Probably those who survived joined the new Romanian Air Force.

They should actually deserve a full article, with photos. Well, one day I might write the story.

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I just noticed you have copied my message on your forum! Can I post some replies too?

Yes, I did it, because it increases exposure to other people, too. Maybe we'll get more answers there.

Yes, sure, please feel free to post your questions on my forum, too.

Zhiveli,

Dénes

Hi Denes!

[quote]They should actually deserve a full article, with photos. Well, one day I might write the story.[/quote]

You know this doesn't sound like a bad idea at all! :keep: :ro:

[quote]Yes, sure, please feel free to post your questions on my forum, too.
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I'll try. It 's a bit quiet these days on it, I see. :wink:

lp,

Klemen

Who was top Romanian of WW1? How many kills did he score? What type of fighter did he fly?

Did you bother to read the thread? The answer is already posted on page 1.

You might be interested in this french plane of the romanian airforce in WW1.
Interesting.... same tri-color tail as in ww2.



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In 1917 the markings for Niuport fighters used by romanian were french tricolors " blue white and red" ( cockades and rudder) and not romanian "blue yellow,red". The answer for this is quite simple: It was no time to over paint the similar french marks ( for the imported Niuports) and the romanian troops would make very easy the difference with the enemy black crosses marks.
But in 1919 against Bela Kun army all the romanian planes ( included Niuports) were all painted with national marks (blue ,yellow and red).
All the romanian aces ( like Craiu) were flown Niuports in 1917 with french markings and all the color profiles in books made for their planes were wrong.

Dan.

And for the first time the truth about the real plane of Lt. Craiu Vasile.
Below you have the picture of Ni-11 flown in 1917 by Craiu.
You can see the french marks ( blue white and red).


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The same plane from other angle.


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And for the first time the corect color profile for Craiu Ni-11.( artwork Dan Melinte)


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And the Ni-11 nr.865. wrong indentified as Craiu plane.
This particular plane was flown in 1917 by Sgt.Tresch in mixed rom.-french unit of Craiu.
The confusion is from a picture taken in 1917 from an observation plane ( probably F-40) with both pilots ( Craiu and Tresch ) escorted in a long distance mission. Because from the two planes the one of Tresch was better looking someone decided to quote as Craiu plane.
The data for serial number of Nieuports flown by this 2 pilots Craiu and Tresch were found in romanian archiv by Prof. Valeriu Avram and published in his books about rom. WWI exploits.
Dan Melinte.


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And below it's a picture with a rom. Ni-11 in 1919 with rom.national marks blue yellow, red. In B&W pictures of that days yellow was dark color.
All the pictures with Niuport 11 posted on this page are courtesy Razvan Bujor.( a real WWI fan)



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This is a very nice thread, which was undeservedly overlooked. Myself am keen to learn more about ARR in W.W. 1.

Thanks, Cantacuzino, for the interesting information and theories. I will have to check my photos to see if I can confirm what you've said above.

About the last photo, said to be a Rumanian Nie. 17 in 1919, the rudder markings seem to me strange. I agree that on some black/white photos the yellow appears dark (orthochromatic film), but the colours on the two extremities seem to me identical, or at least a very close shade. Usually, one can clearly differentiate between red and blue on b/w photos, which is not the case here. Moreover, the narrow vertical stripe dividing the main stripes is also unusual (what coulour could it be?).

IIRC, I also have this photo at home and I'll check it more closely.

Gen. Dénes

but that Nieuport 11'N1249' of the 3rd Fightersquadron in Cioara, I posted is said to be in September 1917, and has fully Red yellow Blue tail and national roundel on it's fuselage. Nothing french to it except the manufacture.

This post has been edited by Der Maresal on January 20, 2005 11:11 pm

I researched a bit the topic at home. I checked out my photo boxes related to W.W. 1.
After looking at dozens and dozens of photos of Rumanian warplanes, I can tell that the situation when the centre circle was left white was the exception rather then the rule.
Indeed, there are a few photos that show the centre circle in the roundels, or the fin flashes, as the lighter colour, probably white. But on most of the photos the centre circle (which is yellow) has medium darkness, the inner colour (or the colour closest to the rudder hinge), which is blue, being the lightest one, while the outer colour (or the colour on the extremity of the rudder), which is red, being the darkest one. See enclosed photo of a Rumanian Nieuport, for example.

Gen. Dénes

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