Romanian helmets

Very interesting and nice helmet, but from what material is the cipher made from steel or copper?

And inside the helmet, under the liner, are any markings?

hi Mihnea,
thanx for your reply. the crest is made from copper and the only markings i can find are a Dutch CM1929 stamp on the leather band and 27B(production year+batch code) stamped in the inside of the helmet. the CM stamp is very common on dutch pre-war army helmets.

Although it's an unusual Dutch helmet, in my opinion it's original but I can't say were and when it was made.

well it's actually a very common dutch type of helmet. the m27 model was produced between 1927 and 1934, before the production of the m34 started. it was in service in the dutch army until may 1940 when Holland capitulated. this helmet type was never sold to the Romanians before the war. only the m34 type helmet was sold by VERBLIFA and it was adopted as the m39 by the Romanian army. the Germans captured a lot of dutch equipment after the capitulation and many of this was sent to Romania. i belive that is how this helmet ended in the hands of the Romanian Army. i have seen a picture before of a m27 helmet with the Romanian creast on front so i do belive it is possible.
greetings,

What do you think about this helmet??

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This post has been edited by Claudiu1988 on April 06, 2008 10:07 pm

It's a very nice helmet but I believe it's custom made for an officer, the quality of the pant job and the emblem is a long way from inter war repaints (brush painted only on the outside with many dents and scratches).

I would buy it if 800euro would drop from the sky.

Hallo Gents,

I do not like the way the badge is fitted so low down

and I doubt is a private custom made helmet either for an officer,

after all Officers had standards and an image to up hold.

Any chance of some close ups of the inner fittings??

If possible pictures taken to see whats under the helmet liner flaps.

The inner looks to be too modern for a Inter-War or WW2 piece

And remember you should by the item and not any story being given by the seller.

I would not pay 800 Euro for this until I had it in my hands for inspection.

Kevin in Deva.

If it belonged to an officer the condition isn't surprising it wouldn’t have been used too much so as new condition isn't unusual when it comes to helmets.

Also if I would make a fake I would fit the cipher in the middle so it would be as good as possible.

Also there is no story with it.

If you haven't noticed yet the pictures are from a world famous auction site so you can check it out.

I beleive this helmet to be an original piece. These helmets were reissued in haste at the beginning of World War 2 and had the Carol 2 badge. They were painted in the same green paint as the WW2 dutch style helmet. The front badge shares the same color paint job as the helmet body. As for the badge not fitting properly ? It is typical for this helmet. Circa 1939-1940. I consider this to be a very rare model as few were made which still retain the Carol badge. You will notice that the Carol 2 badge is about 2/3rds the size of the same badge found on a Dutch model helmet.

hello,

yesterday i got a ww2 Romanian helmet. i'm not sure if it's a m39 or m39/42. the liner is of poor quality and what i believe a "field" modification.
there is a round 2cm diameter stamp in the interior with the following inscription: ROMANIA on top and direct underneath MAN. At the bottom the letters CCR are visible. anyone any idea what this stamp means?

best regards,

MAN=Ministerul apararii nationale.
The ministery of defence.
No ideea what CCR is.

It's the Romanian acceptance stamp CCR might stand for Comisia de Control Romana. It's found on all Romanian m39 helmets with Dutch liner, on the inside.

Hi guys,

thanks for the replys, but i made a little mistake. On the bottom of the stamp are the letters CRR instead of CCR.
sorry for the mistake....
anyone any idea?

best regards,

I knew it sounded odd but I didn't bother tot check my helmets or my pictures. CRR = Comisia de Receptie Romana Romanian reception comity

And a picture of the said symbol: