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sebastian_corn |
Posted: October 12, 2009 10:11 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 2641 Joined: October 12, 2009 |
Sorry to begin with a querry...
I am interrested to gather some info about the soviet camps in which the communists (i.e. Pauker, Luca....) recruited romanian officers for Tudor Vladimirescu and Horia Closca si Crisan divisions. Particularly, I would like to read about Gen. Lascar's recruitment: how did they do it, what arguments they used in recruiting him, if they had a certain "protocol" in recruiting the officers and so on. Thank you very much |
C-2 |
Posted: October 12, 2009 10:20 am
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
I have a whole interv. about this with vet ARR pilot Nicolae Traian.
Unfortunatly Victor is in love and has no time translating it. |
sebastian_corn |
Posted: October 12, 2009 01:03 pm
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 2641 Joined: October 12, 2009 |
Well... Why unfortunately? He's in love - therefore, he is happy, at least for the moment.
On the other hand, could we find a way to view the interview, even if it is in Romanian? It is not that I am extremely hurried to see it, but I've been looking for this subject for quite awhile in the last months... Thanks a lot! |
Iamandi |
Posted: October 12, 2009 05:48 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004 |
You will write something about this subject, or it is just curiosity?
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Victor |
Posted: October 12, 2009 06:48 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
Actually, you're "in love" and have not yet transferred the film from the cassette to a digital format. From memory, the persuasion was something in the line of "they are going to move you to another camp if you don't join and there the chances of survival are much slimmer". Nothing sophisticated. |
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C-2 |
Posted: October 12, 2009 07:28 pm
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
You forget that I visited NT 3 times and taped about 3 hours.
You've been only once with me. Second,I gave you 3 DVD's in front of your work about a year ago..... NT tells exactly how was he under presure (since he was an officer) in order to be a model to the other soldiers. I know that now it is imposib. for you to do the work,but maybee you'll make us a christmas present..... |
sebastian_corn |
Posted: October 13, 2009 08:58 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 2641 Joined: October 12, 2009 |
You are right, Iamandi, i intend to write something about it. I have to know WHERE such things happened and what the communists DID to convince someone like gen. Lascar, for example, to embark into such actions. General Lascar is a good example for what I seek, because his previous acts (as far as I managed to get info...) didn't make him the ideal candidate for the communists.
Why he accepted this? Was it just simple fear or the wish to have an easier life as a POW? His acts as a general at Stalingrad and his antecedents as a Romanian officer don't make him prone for such an attitude... That's why I ask myself: did the communists use some other "convincing skills", by promessing this or that? In the second place, I also have to find out what the Romanian POW day to day life was in a camp. You might say it is an easy thing to find out, only by "translating" the general aspects of the POW's life in soviet or other camps. In this regard, general Chirnoaga's memories could show an insight, but I still wonder how would the officer's honour clash with the soviet "convincing skills". Sorry to put the pressure on you, Victor and C-2, for this... |
Alexei2102 |
Posted: October 13, 2009 10:04 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1352 Member No.: 888 Joined: April 24, 2006 |
There was a book (a romanced novel), written during the pre-89 years, about a Romanian prisoner who joined the TV Division.... I will search for it and get back with details.
Al |
sebastian_corn |
Posted: October 13, 2009 12:37 pm
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 7 Member No.: 2641 Joined: October 12, 2009 |
Thank you very much! |
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Victor |
Posted: October 14, 2009 02:20 pm
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I don't usually forget. The DVDs you gave me were not with Nicolae Traian. |
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C-2 |
Posted: October 14, 2009 05:48 pm
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
Well it's not a subject to talk "on line".
But don't you remember that you were supossed to see if the are ok since the son of Nt couldn't see them? The sun is bad for the memory This post has been edited by C-2 on October 14, 2009 05:49 pm |