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yugit |
Posted: September 06, 2011 10:06 pm
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Sergent major Group: Banned Posts: 216 Member No.: 3058 Joined: May 07, 2011 |
I am attaching a few photos from the collection of Vernon
who served during WWII at Grotagglie and then in Rumania as Nav for AVM Stevenson and for his pilot Flt Lt Archer (Archer is buried in Bucharest ) Can anyone identify the airfield if Baneasa , Pipera or Otopeni ? At Kisselef Nr 61 was the RAF /RAAF mission Hdq in Bucharest between 1945-46. Is this house still existing today ? If yes, can anyone provide a clear resolution photo for Vernon ? Thanks http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/cop...easaairpor.jpg/ PS: If just out of curiosity anyone is interested to know who'se standing right and left of AVM Stevenson these are Gen.Sisyakov and Gen.Tolbukin while right of Tolbukin is Malinovsky. The chief Stalin prosecutor Vishinsky was also attending the ceremony. This post has been edited by yugit on September 06, 2011 11:18 pm |
muggs |
Posted: September 07, 2011 07:06 am
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Plutonier Group: Retired Posts: 298 Member No.: 1499 Joined: July 05, 2007 |
I'm not very knowledgeable of that street's numbers but it appears 60-61 does not exist anymore, highest i could find is 57, here are some links with the actual location, maybe if your friend has internet access he could take a look, he'll surely recognize the old/actual placement of the HQ
http://maps.google.ro/maps?q=soseaua+kisel...86-eBkxY84YB5QQ http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=rd9zxkk55...y=u&form=LMLTCC |
yugit |
Posted: September 07, 2011 07:30 am
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Sergent major Group: Banned Posts: 216 Member No.: 3058 Joined: May 07, 2011 |
Hello and thank you lots for both links.....Based on your link location I presume that the airfield in question must be Baneasa as was kind of real close to Kisselef ....though I may be wrong. According tp the LI-2 or PS-84 winter photo...it seems to me that the airfield is Baneasa, In any case many thanks This post has been edited by yugit on September 07, 2011 07:31 am |
Cantacuzino |
Posted: September 07, 2011 08:23 am
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Interesting the picture with the Mustang from 325FG. Looks like Bazu Canatacuzino stand nearby. Most probably the picture (stillshot) was taken at Popesti Leordeni airfield.
There were two P51 ( B,C ) nicknamed Margaret in the group. I can not ID wich one is in the picture. P-51C-5-NT Sn 42-103443 No 73 “Margaret” 319sq Pilot Edwin L. Williams ( Salvaged/9-2-45) P-51B-15-NA Sn 43-24876 No 83 “Margaret V. “ 319sq Pilot Edward Strauss ( Transfer to 318th) Uploaded with ImageShack.us This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on September 07, 2011 08:25 am |
yugit |
Posted: September 07, 2011 08:40 am
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Sergent major Group: Banned Posts: 216 Member No.: 3058 Joined: May 07, 2011 |
Yes you are absolutely right....the photo depicting an earlier C model
and perhaps you can determine which is which by the model. I am attaching an other photo, whereby also Mihai was attending..so I guess was shot at Ops Reunion at Popesti Leordeni between Aug 28 through Sept 3, 44. I am kind of puzzled that Mihai will show up at AAR wearing an Admiral uniform rather his AAR class A uniform. On his right LtCdr Frank Wisner. As you well know the 325th doesn't have a real deep history book unlike the other FG's of the 305th and 306th wings....therefore all about 325th goes by guessing, though a good tool about this FG is a book called "Herky!" which I hope you red it. Best Regards http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/wisner9.jpg/ This post has been edited by yugit on September 07, 2011 08:50 am |
Cantacuzino |
Posted: September 07, 2011 08:46 am
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You are right, the building is still there renumbered 57 ( near "Arcul de triumf"). URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/91765593.jpg/][/URL] Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
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muggs |
Posted: September 07, 2011 08:51 am
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Plutonier Group: Retired Posts: 298 Member No.: 1499 Joined: July 05, 2007 |
I just noticed the same pic in the stream and was about to post the same thing
It's a nice looking building ! http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Kiseleff+Par...230.86,,1,-4.21 |
yugit |
Posted: September 07, 2011 08:53 am
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Sergent major Group: Banned Posts: 216 Member No.: 3058 Joined: May 07, 2011 |
Thanks very much for the recent photo at Kisselef...pse check
the attachments.On the last photo at Lido I believe that the Rumanian captain named Peter ,was the famous POW's English interpretor named Toma but I need a confirmation on that. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/co...1bucharest.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/co...2bucharest.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/c...64buchares.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/cop...424buchare.jpg/ This post has been edited by yugit on September 07, 2011 09:08 am |
Radub |
Posted: September 07, 2011 08:55 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
Logic dictates that if this was a military operation, the location was Otopeni. Baneasa was a relatively busy civilian airport, while Otopeni was a moden military air base.
The house on Kiseleff 61 is still standing. It is in a beautiful location, just across from the Arc de Triumf. The Google Earth co-ordinates are 44deg27'54.29"N by 26deg04'39.86"E and you can see it in Street View also. It appears to be some sort of official building. As for the location, indeed this is closer to Baneasa, but it is on the same road to Otopeni which is only 12 Km further north. HTH Radu |
yugit |
Posted: September 07, 2011 09:18 am
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Thanks, but with the coordinates you gave I came up with
Ambasada Suediei si Fundazia Titulescu, also based on the hangar photo that leaves me to believe that is either Baneasa or Popesti. Otopeni was indeed used for military airlift ops like you stated, though the Beechcraft was used as a VIP plane for Air Vice M. Stevenson which didnt require any lenghty runways neither modern facilities. From his collection an other attachment http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/c...easaairpor.jpg/ This post has been edited by yugit on September 07, 2011 09:24 am |
Radub |
Posted: September 07, 2011 10:03 am
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Yugit, I am only trying to help... I placed a drop-pin right in the centre of the building. Here are the "copy and paste" co-ordinates as provided by Google Earth: 44°27'59.19"N 26° 4'39.86"E Now, if you think these are wrong, please write to Google. In any case, if you want to help Vernon to see the house in Google Street all you need to do is find the Arc de Triumf, and then look South towards Kiseleff Road. With the Arc de Triumf behind you, the house is the first building on the right at the top of Kiseleff Road. The house also has an entrance on Averescu Boulevard. I have no idea whether it was Otopeni or Baneasa. All I know is that Otopeni was a military airbase while Baneasa was a civilian airport - I pointed the difference in the hope that maybe such details can help. Now, in as far as I understand, Vernon is still around. All you need to do is ask him how long it took him to drive from the house on Kiseleff to this airport. Baneasa should be about 10 minutes drive. Otopeni should be about 30 minutes drive. The photo you linked shows the Lakes Herasatrau and Baneasa and they are indeed next to Baneasa airport. Popesti was on the opposite side of Bucharest. (I think Popesti was a grass airfield.) Ask him again how long it took him to get to the house from the airport. This should take about one hour. HTH Radu This post has been edited by Radub on September 07, 2011 10:09 am |
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yugit |
Posted: September 07, 2011 10:08 am
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Sergent major Group: Banned Posts: 216 Member No.: 3058 Joined: May 07, 2011 |
Yes, Vernon is still around and I will definitely be in touch with him , though his recollections are scanty , that's why I asked what I've asked Thanks for your help This post has been edited by yugit on September 07, 2011 10:08 am |