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Posted: January 24, 2011 08:15 pm
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QUOTE (Amicus_Plato @ January 24, 2011 05:09 pm)
The Law of Islam is based on Quran and Hadith (which describes the examples and words of Muhammad) and its application depends on precedents. The Law is seen as given by God once and for all through the Prophet and it concerns all the aspects of human life.

It concerns general aspects of human life and it does so in a general manner. That's why there is a huge body of interpreters and interpretations, rules and counter-rules out there, trying to "update" 1400-year-old "laws" to modern situations.

Take a look at this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2005/oc.../sport.comment1

The Islamists' ideology goes for the most strict interpretations and would lead to a return to the 600s.


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  Posted: January 25, 2011 01:51 pm
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I can "only" reply that along the centuries there undoubtedly were "thousands of charlatans proclaiming themselves "prophets" and "enlightened" and thousands of sects constituting their communities fighting each other", as you so mildly put it!
And, BTW, everyone has his/her own interpretation of the Scripture, for his/her own "internal use"; of course, by "everyone", I mean everyone who has more than 5 neurons inside the brain... tongue.gif

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Posted: January 25, 2011 06:25 pm
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It concerns general aspects of human life and it does so in a general manner. That's why there is a huge body of interpreters and interpretations, rules and counter-rules out there, trying to "update" 1400-year-old "laws" to modern situations.

As any law it regards the general principle, not any particular case. That kind of interpretations happens everywhere, in any juridical situation. Islam doesn't have a Church, and the religious authorities (the wise) in any of their particular communities give a "fatwa" or a rule of behaviour based on their religious knowledge, which concerns exclusively the members of that community, but not Islam as a whole. People from a certain Islamic community don't know how to behave in a particular situation, and their wise men give them the rule which they must obey.

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The Islamists' ideology goes for the most strict interpretations and would lead to a return to the 600s.

I don't believe that people of today are more intelligent than people who lived 1400 years ago, the same as I don't believe that any anachronistic idea has any chance to play a role in the real life. If a certain idea plays a role in the real life, it means it is actual.

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Posted: January 26, 2011 05:32 pm
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Interesting discussion!

Can someone tell me why the Abrahamic religions are all SO doctrinaire??

Rules, rules, rules,..... and then legions of prophets, priests ,bishops. cardinals, popes, metropolitans, rabbis, imans and the like on how/when/where to apply these rules!!

I think it's all a gigantic "make work" project. Think of all the unemployed if there's "no religion" ("Imagine, no religion"... J. Lennon, R.I.P). Imagine all those "holies" forced to make an honest living??!

Seriously....I think people on this side of the globe like to be told what to do.

I'll take Buddhism...very few rules and no "big guy" upstairs striking down the wicked non-believers, whoever they may be. And who ever heard of a Buddhist Crusade/"Holy" war/fatwa/pogrom/jihad??


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  Posted: January 26, 2011 06:56 pm
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Hey, the Buddhists have their rules, as well; there are many more differences between the "abrahamic" religions and the Asian ones (Buddhism, Shintoism etc.). The question is who was the determinant - the character of the religion or the character of the people / civilisations there? They're somehow more fatalistic, more inclined towards meditation than us.


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Posted: January 27, 2011 07:34 am
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QUOTE (cnflyboy2000 @ January 26, 2011 07:32 pm)
I'll take Buddhism...very few rules and no "big guy" upstairs striking down the wicked non-believers, whoever they may be. And who ever heard of a Buddhist Crusade/"Holy" war/fatwa/pogrom/jihad??

There were wars as well carried out by Buddhist states (more recently see the Hindu-Buddhist clashes in Sri Lanka). The only thing is that there weren't any major powers with distinct religion neighboring the Buddhist states.
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Posted: February 11, 2011 10:55 pm
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Posted: March 10, 2011 11:02 pm
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http://www.libertatea.ro/detalii/articol/p...afi-325102.html
if it be true that ex-romanian pilots fly the libyan jet fighters in the battles against the rebels, how should we look at them? Ruthless mercenaries or Opportunistic contractors?
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Posted: March 11, 2011 04:23 am
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Contractors? Isn't it a "political corect" term and a "eufemism"?
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Posted: March 11, 2011 09:47 am
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Romania has a long history of sending contractors to Libya. I know people who worked there on refineries and roads for the last three decades and one of them was working there as recently as last year. When I was in high school in Galati, Liceul CFR taught Libyan students and we played soccer against them many times.
Anyone remember the Scinteia headlines of "Long live the Romanian-Libyan friendship"?

Here is one more thing to consider. Remember how Gaddafi was saying last week that the "uprising" was led by Al Qaeda? http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110302/wl_mi..._20110302120851
The world laughed and called him a crazy despot trying to hold on to his power. And he is a crazy despot trying to hold on to his power. But none of the world armies are rushing to help the "rebels" either and depose him. Makes you wonder... maybe he was a bit right... rolleyes.gif

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Posted: March 11, 2011 05:41 pm
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Romania has long military traditions and many people with military experience or adventure spirit, or other motivations. They're many Romanians who served in Foreign Legion. It could be possible that Roimanians (particulars) joined Gadafi.
I found a short history of known Romanians involved in such activities:
http://www.jurnalul.ro/special/special/raz...iei-571142.html
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Posted: March 11, 2011 07:11 pm
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Well, if there is one thing we learned on this forum, "they are Romanians and we must be proud of them". laugh.gif
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Posted: March 15, 2011 10:26 pm
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