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Florin |
Posted: July 10, 2011 03:53 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
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Radub |
Posted: July 10, 2011 04:11 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
I apologise for using the word "you" in those examples...maybe the word "one" would have been more suitable just to make sure that they are taken as generic rather than specific examples. They are just examples in which freedom of expression may be limited. ;-) I never meant to imply that you partake in such... :-)
No need to raise a white flag either. This is not a battle and we seem to agree with each other in general anyway. Radu |
contras |
Posted: August 03, 2011 07:12 pm
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contras |
Posted: August 03, 2011 07:20 pm
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contras |
Posted: August 03, 2011 08:07 pm
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Fulcrum89 |
Posted: August 14, 2011 04:15 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 6 Member No.: 3118 Joined: August 14, 2011 |
So much drama over something that does not even exist yet! But will surely make Romania a target!
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contras |
Posted: August 14, 2011 09:04 pm
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 732 Member No.: 2693 Joined: December 28, 2009 |
You know, as NATO member, Romania is a target! |
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Hadrian |
Posted: August 14, 2011 10:18 pm
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Sergent major Group: Members Posts: 245 Member No.: 875 Joined: April 09, 2006 |
I think Romania was a target since the russians extended to our border
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contras |
Posted: August 15, 2011 08:56 am
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 732 Member No.: 2693 Joined: December 28, 2009 |
I agree. |
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Florin |
Posted: August 15, 2011 05:11 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
This means since 1711. And it was since that time, indeed. |
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contras |
Posted: August 15, 2011 10:01 pm
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 732 Member No.: 2693 Joined: December 28, 2009 |
Twelve Russian invasions on Romanian soil since that date. Sure we are a target. |
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Radub |
Posted: August 16, 2011 08:01 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
Ah well, that is a bit misleading... A more accurate description would be that the Russians fought the Ottoman empire on Romanian soil. Many Romanians conveniently forget that what we call Romania today was part of the Ottoman Empire for over 400 years and the Russians and Turks were at war for a long part of that time. Some Romanians conveniently forget that it was also the Russians who helped us get our independence from the Ottoman empire in 1877 as part of that long Russo-Turkish campaign of wars. It is interesting to note that the year 1711 was mentioned. Dimitrie Cantemir who ruled Moldova (with support from the Porte) granted suzeranity over Bessarabia to the Russians "cu acte in regula" (treaty signed in Lutsk) in exchange for help to break Moldova free from the Porte. He failed. Google Cantemir and the battle of Stanilesti for more info. Radu |
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MMM |
Posted: August 17, 2011 08:30 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
He placed Moldavia, his entire "domain", under Russian protection / suzeranity, not Bessarabia! Perhaps there's access to some copy of the treaty, to "enlighten" us...
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Radub |
Posted: August 17, 2011 11:28 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
Apologies, that was a "keyboard slip"... I meant "Moldova" rather than "Bassarabia". I was addled by the overwhelming "voceabasarabiei" effluvium and I had Bessarabia ringing in my head. Radu |
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udar |
Posted: August 19, 2011 06:29 pm
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Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 281 Member No.: 354 Joined: September 24, 2004 |
Well, i know we was a vassal to Ottoman empire, not part of it, so a quite diferent thing. And Russia in 1877 didnt come here for the love of us, to help us, but had her own interests of expansion. In 1877-1878 we was already independent "de facto", and Russians conveniently seem to forget too that asked for our help, to win that war |
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