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Posted: November 05, 2011 05:43 pm
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QUOTE (ANDREAS @ November 05, 2011 02:45 pm)
Just a diversion for the future elections or a well thought move?
http://www.realitatea.net/propunere-soc-re...ina_884235.html

Well-thought by whom? Putin? ph34r.gif


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  Posted: November 05, 2011 09:11 pm
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Can't say for sure, but you must admit that this way they (Smirnov speaks, somebody else thinks!) antagonize Moldova's relations with Ukraine! And there is another problem : the city of Tighina occupied and held by the rebels, but always part of Moldova! You can call me nuts but for that city I'll go to war even if I had only a stick
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Posted: November 05, 2011 09:24 pm
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QUOTE (ANDREAS @ November 05, 2011 09:11 pm)
You can call me nuts but for that city I'll go to war even if I had only a stick

It would be a short war. biggrin.gif
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Posted: November 06, 2011 08:10 pm
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It would be a short war. biggrin.gif

How do you know it isn't a magic one? Technology is evolving every day ... biggrin.gif
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Posted: November 11, 2011 03:04 pm
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Something tells me that if they go ahead with the referendum, Smirov prefers the first question.


For sure, Smirnov is not prefered at Moscow from some time, and he tries to make a move to rise is popularity at home. But after this move, is sure that Smirnov will be replaced as leader at Tiraspol.
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Posted: November 12, 2011 07:03 pm
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Posted: November 12, 2011 09:41 pm
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Posted: November 12, 2011 10:09 pm
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Indeed contras is worse than I thought! Even if it's preferred to let Transnistria go over the alternative, the idea to abandon the city Tighina in the hands of the Russians I found unacceptable!
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Posted: November 13, 2011 01:32 pm
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But is it / was it ever Romanian? Of course, I'm speaking about the post-1812 timeframe...

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Posted: November 13, 2011 09:16 pm
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If you think like this, all Ukraina and Belarus are russians...

Or Königsberg biggrin.gif
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  Posted: November 14, 2011 09:11 am
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Yeah, well, the point is like this: how far in the past is one willing to go to prove something?
Right now Kaliningrad IS Russian, because it was subject to ethnic cleansing in 1945 and right after that...
Also, it's said that the entire Prussia (region) was a Teutonic conquest in the Middle Ages; before that it was Slavic, so it's kinda two-way street...


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Posted: November 14, 2011 07:56 pm
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Yeah, well, the point is like this: how far in the past is one willing to go to prove something?
Right now Kaliningrad IS Russian, because it was subject to ethnic cleansing in 1945 and right after that...
Also, it's said that the entire Prussia (region) was a Teutonic conquest in the Middle Ages; before that it was Slavic, so it's kinda two-way street...

It's already off-topic but I need to say it : I read in a german book (I mean a book written in german by germans!) about the conquest of the territories of Pomerania and Saxonia who belonged to Poland (no slavic tribes, polish!) since 980-1000! The german admit the conquest and speak about it frankly! And the expansion to the east began anyway only after 1100 and reached the current border line (german-polish) around 1200-1210. Of course later they conquered Pomerania and Prussia (from around 1220 until 1250) where they colonised heavily German peasants (they massacred Polish non-Christian local communities (tribes) in the name of the Christian religion!). And I repeat it is a historical fact recognized by german historians today!
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Posted: November 14, 2011 10:32 pm
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If we think like MMM said, it is now LEGALLY moldavian, so the past doesn`t matter...
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Posted: November 14, 2011 11:06 pm
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All of the disputed lands on this planet rely on some kind of treaty to cement "ownership". Peace treaties involve a loser and a winner. "Losers" will be sore and "winners" will guard their advantage.
Neither side will admit they are wrong. But treaties are contracts. Just because your grandfather signed a contract giving away his house, you cannot claim that the house technically belongs to you.
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Posted: November 15, 2011 06:27 am
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QUOTE (Radub @ November 15, 2011 05:06 am)
But treaties are contracts. Just because your grandfather signed a contract giving away his house, you cannot claim that the house technically belongs to you.

What if a gun was (physically, or psychically) put against your head to sign the contract? See, for example, the episode of King Michael's abdication in 1947.
Is that contract a valid contract?

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