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Florin |
Posted: February 14, 2014 05:50 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
Interesting also the link from the first comment for the article you recommend: http://romanian.ruvr.ru/2014_02_08/In-ce-m...ea-a-II-a-3544/ This post has been edited by Florin on February 14, 2014 05:50 am |
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Imperialist |
Posted: February 15, 2014 10:37 am
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 |
Moldova's future? The Moldovan Communists currently have 50% in voter intention polls. Voronin is not only the most popular politician in the polls, his popularity is actually rising. Based on these results, Moldova's future will soon be "go East." -------------------- I
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MMM |
Posted: February 15, 2014 10:34 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Much like Romania in the early nineties, right? Except, of course, we NEVER had a Trans-dnestra in our backyard... Re: Voronin: boy, does he have a tough liver! -------------------- M
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cnflyboy2000 |
Posted: February 16, 2014 06:48 pm
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Plutonier adjutant Group: Members Posts: 371 Member No.: 221 Joined: February 18, 2004 |
Am I missing something here? Or are events in Ukraine unfolding in a vacuum next door? |
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Imperialist |
Posted: February 17, 2014 09:29 am
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People in Moldova are not content with the way the economy is going, with their standards of living, with the ruling coalition. So the Communist Party capitalizes on this discontent and is doing very well in recent polls. They clearly dominate the rural areas (older people, poorer people, lower levels of education there). And people in Moldova are also almost equally split between joining the EU (43%) and joining Russia's Eurasian Union (44.7%). This post has been edited by Imperialist on February 17, 2014 09:29 am -------------------- I
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cnflyboy2000 |
Posted: February 18, 2014 06:50 pm
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Plutonier adjutant Group: Members Posts: 371 Member No.: 221 Joined: February 18, 2004 |
ok, got it. ty. so, not terribly unlike Ukraine itself? (which atm looks on fire again.) |
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contras |
Posted: February 23, 2014 12:44 am
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 732 Member No.: 2693 Joined: December 28, 2009 |
I believe the actual situation in Ukraine is not the end, just the begining of many unrests and developments, civil war is not out of the scene.
http://bogatu.voceabasarabiei.net/?p=2861 |
Victor |
Posted: February 23, 2014 07:06 am
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I share your opinion. It's not over yet and I don't believe that the pro-Russian Eastern Ukraine will let things go as they are. I simply don't see the two parts of Ukraine comming together on a common path.
As for the "democratic" Ukraine part in the article you mentioned, it's worth noting that some of the "pro-EU" protesters are actually ultra-nationalists who dislike not only Russians, but Romanians and other minorities too. The "democratic" regime following the Orange Revolution didn't bring any improvement in the treatment of minorities in the Ukraine. They were just anti-Russian, this is why they were considered "democratic". |
Radub |
Posted: February 23, 2014 09:52 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
Here is an interesting article written on 19 December, before the "revolution" in Ukraine. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/12/19/u...E9BI0E320131219
Here is a brief history of the Association Agreement between EU and Ukraine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80...ation_Agreement Radu This post has been edited by Radub on February 23, 2014 09:55 am |
contras |
Posted: February 28, 2014 10:15 pm
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 732 Member No.: 2693 Joined: December 28, 2009 |
I am totally on your side when you say this. The ones who takes power in Ukraine today are not them all pro UE or pro West, there are many fractions, and this will be the next front of the new battle over Ukraine. |
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Florin |
Posted: March 02, 2014 03:27 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
Personally I think that as usual Russia will play its cards with boldness and determination, while Obama, NATO and the West will hesitate and will not dare too much.
Don't get me wrong: I do not want a war there. Romania is a NATO member, and like Poland, is in the front line of NATO. Another reason I do not want a war there is because Romania, as NATO member, will have to help Ukraine. And I am wondering why… Since 1991 the new independent Ukraine was worse neighbor of Romania than the Tsarist Empire of 1878…1916, or than the Soviet Union of 1953…1989. While dealing with her neighbors (Russia, Poland, Romania), Ukraine uses again and again: "My way or the highway." This post has been edited by Florin on March 02, 2014 05:03 am |
Radub |
Posted: March 02, 2014 09:27 am
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How can Romania "help" Ukraine? Why? With what?
We went over this before. If Romania went to war with Russia, it would be a vey short (and comical) war with a predictable outcome. Radu |
MMM |
Posted: March 02, 2014 04:23 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
First of all it is yet unclear whether they are really "in power" or only nominally; second, what Ukraine ar we talking about? With or without Crimea and the Eastern areas? LE: Radub, why would a war be "comical"? Do you suppose the Russians will use laughing gas on us? This post has been edited by MMM on March 02, 2014 04:25 pm -------------------- M
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Imperialist |
Posted: March 02, 2014 06:35 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 |
Romania can't help Ukraine but it will help Moldova.
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Florin |
Posted: March 02, 2014 07:06 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
I think you did not pay attention to my words. If think they were obvious: Romania should not help Ukraine, even if Romania would be able to do so. It is not about how weak is Romania, it is a moral matter. My understanding is that the first law / edict issued by the new "democratic" government of Ukraine is to declare that in Ukraine there are no national minorities, whatsoever. |
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