Artillery regiments of the 1941 infantry division, number of 75mm gun battalions

It is indicated that in the 1941 infantry divisions "even" numbered artillery regiments had 1 battalion of 75mm guns and one battalion of 100mm howitzers; whereas "odd" numbered artillery regiments had 2 battalions with 75mm guns and one of 100mm howitzers.

But...
– The 4th Infantry Division had the 2nd and 10th Artillery Regiments,
– The 7th Infantry Division had the 4th and 8th Artillery Regiments,
– The 13th Infantry Division had the 19th and 41st Artillery Regiments.
– The 15th Infantry Division had the 23rd and 25st Artillery Regiments.

So, which of these regiments had two 75mm gun battalions, and which ones had only one 75mm gun battalion?

Cheers
Leo

[Edited to add fourth division with uncertain equipment]

This post has been edited by Leo_Niehorster on June 26, 2010 02:13 pm

According to what you wrote, the facts should be the following:

The 4th infantry division - the 2nd & 10th artillery regiments - 1 battalion of 75mm guns and 1 battalion of 100mm howitzers,
The 7th infantry division - the 4th & 8th artillery regiments - the same as above,
The 13th infantry division 19th & 41st artillery regiments - 2 battalions of 75mm guns and 1 battalion of 100mm howitzers.

Semantically and logically, that is correct. However, the same sources also state that all divisions had one regiment of each type. Hence my question.

Leo

According to the book "Romanian army 1941 - 1945", the situation you've mentioned in the start of this topic refered to the romanian units from the summer of 1941.

But, in the winter of 1941/1942, as a result of the experience gained on the battlefield, the artillery regiments were reorganized and the "odd" nembered ones were reduced to only 1 battalion of 75mm guns and 1 battalion of 100mm howitzers, the same situation as the "even" numbered ones.

Thank you, but what about 22 June 1941?

In june '41 situations was :

infantry division had an artilery brigade :
artilery brigade had 2 regiments:
first with two divizion with 3 battery of 75 mm guns and one divizion with 2 battery of 100 mm howitzers (total 24 75mm guns and 8 100 mm howitzers).
second with one divizion with 3 battery of 75 mm guns and one divizion with 2 battery of 100 mm howitzers(total 12 75 mm guns and 8 100 mm howitzers).
Total divisional artillery : 36 75 mm field guns and 16 100 mm howitzers.
For comparation german common divisional artillery had : 36 105 mm howitzers and 12 150 mm howitzers.Also each infantry regiments had 8 75 mm guns.

I used for documentation also this site :

http://niehorster.orbat.com/index.htm

sorry for my poor english.

Check the previous poster's name.

Gen. Dénes

Hehe,it seems that I started with left foot in this forum.
In this case will probably need an expert opinion.

Brigada Artilerie
--HQ – Stat
--Regiment Artilerie (Odd-Numbered Regiment)
----HQ – Stat
----Pluton Transmisiuni
----Pluton Antiaeriene (mot.) – 4 x AAMG
----Divizion 1.Artilerie / Regiment Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG
----Divizion 2.Artilerie / Regiment Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG
----Divizion 3.Artilerie / Regiment Artilerie – 2 Batteries – 8 x 10cm FH
--Regiment Artilerie(Even-Numbered Regiment)
----HQ – Stat
----Pluton Transmisiuni
----Pluton Antiaeriene (mot.) – 4 x AAMG
----Divizion 1.Artilerie / Regiment Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG
----Divizion 2.Artilerie / Regiment Artilerie – 2 Batteries – 8 x 10cm FH

Just discovered the downloadable book "165 ani de Existenta a Artileriei Romane Moderne" on this forum's thread:
   New (2008) book about Romanian artillery
which details the artillery of the corps, divisions, and brigades between pages 108-110.

I can understand much with my rusty knowledge of various Romance languages, but I am certain many details and nuances elude me.

Unfortunately, the text is locked.
So now I have to find a one online where the text can be copied and pasted into a translation program...


Cheers
Leo

The table is relatively simple to understand, the only columns which could create problems are probably:

Nr. Dn. T. -> number of field gun battalions
Nr. Dn. Ob. -> number of howitzer battalions

If there is anything specific about the text I am sure we can help you with it. Online translators may not work properly when dealing with more technical texts such as this one.

1. Thank you, Victor, and others who have contacted me directly with offers to assist in translating the text of this book. The parts taken are sufficient for the moment. This is like any research, one flys over the text, and stops at possibly interesting parts. At which point one starts to do a more careful reading -> or hopefully, in this case, translating. Of course, I would like to be able to read the entire book, at least those portions pertaining to WWII. Hence me searching for a version with "copyable" text.

2. Having said all that, perhaps someone could discover the types artillery battalions for the Artillery Brigades for the 27th and 32nd Reserve Infantry Divisions? Divisional headquarters locations and commanders? See here what I have/am missing:
Rumanian 1941 Infantry Division

Cheers
Leo

If you have a "Select" tool on the menu bar, you should be able to copy/paste.

Montbrun

aka Brad Hunter

Divizia 27 Infanterie Rezerva
Brigada 27 Infanterie Rezerva
--Regiment 52 Infanterie Rezerva
--Regiment 74 Infanterie Rezerva
--Regiment 75 Infanterie Rezerva
--Regiment 76 Infanterie Rezerva
Brigada 27 Artilerie Rezerva
--Regiment 67 Artilerie Rezerva
--Regiment 68 Artilerie Rezerva

Divizia 32 Infanterie Rezerva
Brigada 32 Infanterie Rezerva
--Regiment 46 Infanterie Rezerva
--Regiment 73 Infanterie Rezerva
--Regiment 78 Infanterie Rezerva
Brigada 32 Artilerie Rezerva
--Regiment 55 Artilerie Rezerva
--Regiment 56 Artilerie Rezerva

For 06/41, see my post above for organization of the constituent battalions ("Divizionul") within the regiments. These two divisions were "stood-down" during 11/40, and formally disbanded in 09/41.

As of 01/15/42, the Artillery Brigades were theoretically organized as follows:

Brigada Artilerie
--HQ – Stat
Regiment Artilerie
--HQ – Stat
--Pluton Transmisiuni
--Pluton Antiaeriene (mot.) – 4 x 2cm AA
--Divizion 1 Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG, 6 x LMG
--Divizion 2 Artilerie – 2 Batteries – 8 x 10cm FH, 4 x LMG
Regiment Artilerie
--HQ – Stat
--Pluton Transmisiuni
--Pluton Antiaeriene (mot.) – 4 x 2cm AA
--Divizion 1 Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG, 6 x LMG
--Divizion 2 Artilerie – 2 Batteries – 8 x 10cm FH, 4 x LMG

As of 10/28/43, the Artillery Brigades were theoretically organized as follows:

Brigada Artilerie
--HQ – Stat
Regiment Artilerie
--HQ – Stat
--Pluton Transmisiuni
--Pluton Antiaeriene (mot.) – 4 x 2cm AA
--Divizion 1.Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG or 7.62cm FH®, 6 x LMG
--Divizion 2.Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 10cm FH, 6 x LMG
Regiment Artilerie
--HQ – Stat
--Pluton Transmisiuni
--Pluton Antiaeriene (mot.) – 4 x 2cm AA
--Divizion 1.Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG or 7.62cm FH®, 6 x LMG
--Divizion 2.Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 10cm FH, 6 x LMG

As of 10/26/44, after the formal armistice, and in coordination with the Soviets (the brigade structure was abolished):

Regiment Artilerie
--HQ – Stat
--Pluton Transmisiuni
--Divizion Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG, 2 x 2cm AA, 6 x LMG
--Divizion Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 7.5cm FG, 2 x 2cm AA, 6 x LMG
--Divizion Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 10cm FH, 2 x 2cm AA, 6 x LMG
--Divizion Artilerie – 3 Batteries – 12 x 12cm Mortar, 2 x 2cm AA, 6 x LMG

Hope this helps,

Montbrun

This post has been edited by Montbrun on September 07, 2010 09:54 pm

I have Acrobat Professional, and it includes the "Select" tool. However, the selected text of the referenced manuscript cannot be copied as it is locked. (See "Document Properties" under "File", and then click "Security"). Or am I missing something?


I am looking for organizations applicable to the infantry divisions in June 1941.
Specifically:
 1. What kind of artillery battalions (gun or howitzer), and how many of each, were in the artillery regiments of the 27. and 32. Reserve Infantry Divisions.
 2. The locations of the headquarters of the 27., 30., 31., 32., 35. Reserve Infantry Divisions.
 3. The commanders of the 27., 30., 32. Reserve Infantry Divisions.

Cheers
Leo