Who wrote "Treceti batalioane romane"

Who wrote the lyrics and composed the music of the song "Treceti batalioane romane, Carpatii"?

In as far as I recall, it was a "Cenaclul Flacara" song written by Victor Socaciu.
HTH
Radu

Vasile Seicaru http://www.versuri.ro/versuri/mhlkf_vasile...e+carpatii.html

i mean the original 1916 one.

This is the original.
Radu

It's usually quoted as "mars ostasesc" ("soldier's march"), but I haven't seen anywhere the original autor. Vasile Seicaru is definitely not the author.

It looks that the author it is anonim.

From
http://www.presamil.ro/VM/2005/2/34-37.htm

– Stiu de la tatal meu, care a participat la cele doua campanii de eliberare a Ardealului (1916 si 1919), iar intre ele a luptat la Marasesti. A mers calare, cu Regimentul 7 Rosiori, de la Chisinau pana la Viena. Mai avea niste bancnote emise de Bella Kuhn, dar le-a pierdut. Erau bune acum pentru un muzeu. Pe timpul marsului, in campania din 1919 de inabusire a revolutiei rosii, condusa de Bella Kuhn, si de eliberare a Transilvaniei si de consfintire a Marii Uniri, rosiorii nostri cantau marsurile Eroi au fost, eroi sunt inca, Hora de la Plevna, Treceti, batalioane romane, Carpatii, precum si romante militare.

Cenaclul Flacara did that a lot. They had a lot of songs like Lancea lui Horea, Cu Caciulile pe Frunte, and they "sold" them to the public as if they were ancient songs. I know... from bitter personal experience ... I fell for it hook, line and sinker. I went to the concerts, I have the LP records, I listened to the radio programme. I was brainwashed.

Treceti Batalioanele Romane Carpatii was written by Victor Socaciu in the eighties.

Look at the lyrics (Victor's link and elsewhere). The lyrics are written as if they are the tale of a soldier recounting how Transylvania was won. The lyrics mention Alba, the people gathering there to sign the union document, they mention the union as a completed fact (old news actually). All of these things took place after the war. Unless the "anonymous" author was a clairvoyant or time-traveller, there is plenty of evidence in the lyrics to point out that it was writteen after the war.

Further evidence that this is the usual insidious patriotard tripe that Cenaclul Flacara peddled is the line mentioning "comandantul suprem". And we all know who that was

Radu

Corul Bărbătesc din Finteușul Mare, Maramureș, an choir founded in 1 December 1918 by Valer Dragoș (priest) and Gavril Bogdan, Nistor Dragoș (schoolteachers) still sings the original version from WW1, which goes as followed:

Treceti batalioane romane Carpatii
La arme cu frunze si flori
V-asteapta izbinda, v-asteapta si fratii
Cu inima la trecatori

Ardealul, Ardealul, Ardealul ne cheama
Nadejdea e numai la noi
Saruta-ti copile parintii si fratii
Si-apoi sa mergem la razboi

'Nainte! 'Nainte cu sabia-n mana,
Hotarul nedrept sa-l zdrobim
Sa trecem Carpatii, ne trebuie Ardealul
De-o fi sa ne-ngropam de vii.

http://www.trilulilu.ro/iubescRomania/c1ee1998f0405f

http://www.trilulilu.ro/rokker/31b5d0f7fbd0ea?offset=25
http://www.produsin.ro/articole/de-o-varsta-cu-unirea/

Regards!

"Treceţi batalioane..." was sure known at the date Romania entered ww1. Şeicaru and Socaciu and others from "Cenaclul..." have just a small contribution on lyrics, adding some more "strofe" to this song. The original ww1 lyrics are those presented by "ionionescu" forumer.

I was just curious to know who are the "parents" of this extremelly popular and well known patriotic song among romanians. It would be a shame that so talented authors not to be known for posterity.

By the way, as I see some guys around here are interested in the subject, how many of you know the origin of the well known "Marşul lui Iancu" (song and lyrics)? It has an interesting history, going back in 1848.

Where is the evidence that this song was sung during the war? Any war?

Here are the COMPLETE lyrics :

Un cintec istoric ne-aduce aminte
Ca fratii in veci vor fi frati
Un cintec de lupta, batrin ca Unirea
Voi compatrioti ascultati.

Treceti batalioane romane Carpatii
La arme cu frunze si flori
V-asteapta izbinda, v-asteapta si fratii
Cu inima la trecatori

Ardealul, Ardealul, Ardealul ne cheama
Nadejdea e numai la noi
Saruta-ti copile parintii si fratii
Si-apoi sa mergem la razboi

'Nainte! 'Nainte spre marea Unire,
Hotarul nedrept sa-l zdrobim
Sa trecem Carpatii, ne trebuie Ardealul
De-o fi sa ne-ngropam de vii.

Cu sabii facuram Unirea cea mare
Spre Alba cu totii porneam
Toti oamenii tarii semnau intregirea,
Vointa intregului neam.


Versuri Vasile Seicaru - Treceti batalioane romane carpatii
de pe http://www.versuri.ro
Cu totii eram regimente romane:
Moldova, Muntenia, Ardeal
Fireasca unire cu patria muma
Ne-a fost cel mai sfint ideal.

Aceasta-i povestea Ardealului nostru
Si-a neamului nostru viteaz.
Istoria-ntreaga cu lupte si jertfe
Traieste-n unirea de azi.

Dreptatea si pacea vegheaza Carpatii
Si tara e frunza si flori
A noastra-i izbinda, ai nostri sint fratii
Traiasca in veci trei culori.

Vrem liniste-n tara si pace in lume
Dar daca-r veni vreun blestem
Carpatii si fratii sari-vor ca unul
Urmind comandantul suprem

Treceti batalioane romane Carpatii
La arme cu frunze si flori
A noastra-i izbinda, ai nostri sint fratii
Traiasca in veci trei culorï.

This post has been edited by Radub on January 13, 2011 05:16 pm

Ok, Radub, I got your point as you repeated it, now what: do you want a signed statement from a ww1 or ww2 veteran, eventually legalised to a public "notar", in three "exemplare", in order to believe at last that Cenaclul just added some new "strofe"???? My grandfather was singing it in the army in ww2, as he said to me, when Şeicaru and Socaciu and almost all who participated at Cenaclu was not born yet. I should be so carefull and asked him to give me a signed declaration when he was still alive

It also exist the posibility that my grandfather had a time machine and traveled in 1942 to 1980's and he so learned "Treceti batalioane" from Cenaclul..., but he hidden this detail from me in order I not to be able to travel in time to get the lucky numbers from 6 din 49 and stay an honest romanian worker, for the good of our beloved Motherland, Romania!

This post has been edited by 21 inf on January 13, 2011 06:23 pm

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
Radu

Wow, lucky me that I learned that today. Thanks for sharing!

This doesn't shed any light on the matter, but gives the authors of several other patriotic songs. I believe it's not that hard to find evidence about this song being sung before WWII.