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ANDREAS
Posted: March 13, 2010 10:51 pm
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USSR. Southern Front. Three days later than the appointed time front troops had completed the deployment at the borders of Romania (11-27.06.1940). 12 Army troops stationed in Precarpathian MD were deployed in the south-east. The army headquarters relocated from Stanislav in Kolomyia, where they had the 8th, 13th, 15th, and 17th Army Corps commanded by general Ya. Cherevychenko, and the 2nd and 4th Cavalry Corps. Part of the 5th Army troops deployed in Volhynia, were reassigned to the 6th and 12 Armies. The 5th Army headquarters was transferred from Lutsk in  Dunaevtsy, where he left with the 36th and 49th Corps. From the Odessa Military District troops, augmented by KOVO, HVO and the North Caucasus Military District, were launched with the 9th Army (headquarters in Grossulovo) consisting of 7, 35, 37, 55 Infantry Corps and 5th Cavalry Corps. All of the troops of the Southern Front comprises 32 infantry, 2 mechanized infantry, 6 cavalry divisions, 11 tank and 3 airborne brigades, 14 corps artillery regiments, 16 artillery regiments GDH and 4 great power artillery battalions. The total number of forces groups up to 460.000 men with 12.000 guns and mortars and about 3.000 tanks. Grouping of the Air Force Front units 21 fighter-, 12 medium bomber-, 4 Long-Range bomber-, 4 light bomber-, 4 heavy bomber air regiments, and employs 2.160 aircraft. For the impact on the enemy forces Political Department of the front was printed 6 million leaflets, which on June 27 have been loaded into the aircraft. - Prutskaya march 1940 (Bessarabia operation) from the book Meltyuhov MI Lost Chance of Stalin. The Soviet Union and the Struggle for Europe: 1939-1941 (documents, facts and opinions). M. Veche, 2000.

If the Crown Council decided resistence how much time could we have? Woud have been helped or attacked by the neighbors? Would Moldova or Valachia occupied by the soviets? Would the germans and hungarians occupied Transsilvania?
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Posted: March 13, 2010 10:57 pm
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I try to post a map of the soviet operations ...
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Posted: March 13, 2010 11:00 pm
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Posted: March 15, 2010 05:21 am
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Interesting map, ANDREAS! From where is it?
As I looked at it, I see the intensions to occupy Jassy (Iasi). In case of Romanian resistance?
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Posted: March 15, 2010 05:23 pm
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Yes, this was the version according to which the ultimatum wouldn't have been accepted; however the Prut would have eventually been the fronteer. At least that's what I've read...


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Posted: March 15, 2010 06:06 pm
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This map shows the interest and intension to outflank Iasi and take it from the rear, from Northern Bukovina. If tthis intensions become true, if we resisted, the new frontier would be Siret, not Prut. If no Carphatians.
Must consider Stalin initial intention, to claim entire Bukovina, not just the Northern part. But he must reconsider because Hitler disagree.
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Posted: March 15, 2010 08:12 pm
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Contras,
the map and informations were taken from a russian site http://www.hrono.ru/sobyt/1940prut.html, in russian only... as you guess is a hour-by-hour description of the crisis that culminated with the ocupation of Bassarabia and North Bukovina...
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you are right, the arrows (the big ones) indicate the operative intentions of the soviet army groups in case of a war! The translation from the text is "plan operatsii"...
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Posted: March 15, 2010 08:25 pm
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It appears that some units had orders to advance beyond the line established by the ultimatum regardless of Romania's decision to give in or not.

Here is an excerpt from the testimony of Lt.-Col.(r.) Nicolae St. Dinu Macelaru, in 1940 2nd Lieutenant in 6th Infantry Division:

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Posted: March 15, 2010 09:46 pm
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There are many interesting memories about these events, but one is so hot that I must ask the ones who knows better. Is about Putna Monastery thing, it apears in one novel by Dan Giju, Zodia Capului de Mort, mthat one captain, Ion Toba, has a fiercely retail about one Soviet tempive to occupy the Putna Monastery and his surroundings. It apears also in Historia magazine. It is true, or the result of imagination? The novel goes through, about Ion Toba's diary about partisan fightings in Crimeea, prison camps in Russia and Romania, and other stuff. It is true or just an exercise of imagination?
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Posted: March 16, 2010 06:16 am
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http://www.crestinortodox.ro/diverse/cum-f...utna-69180.html

Later on, he joined the SS becoming Sturmbannführer Ion Toba-Hatmanu. If I remember it correctly, he also published his memoirs.

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Posted: March 16, 2010 10:34 am
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Later on, he joined the SS becoming Sturmbannführer Ion Toba-Hatmanu. If I remember it correctly, he also published his memoirs.


I saw just the Dan Giju novel, where apeared some parts of his diary. Some pages of that diary is also published in Historia magazine. There is a complete version of his memories, other than Dan Giju's book?
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Posted: March 16, 2010 01:34 pm
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QUOTE (ANDREAS @ March 13, 2010 10:51 pm)
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USSR. Southern Front. Three days later than the appointed time front troops had completed the deployment at the borders of Romania (11-27.06.1940). 12 Army troops stationed in Precarpathian MD were deployed in the south-east. The army headquarters relocated from Stanislav in Kolomyia, where they had the 8th, 13th, 15th, and 17th Army Corps commanded by general Ya. Cherevychenko, and the 2nd and 4th Cavalry Corps. Part of the 5th Army troops deployed in Volhynia, were reassigned to the 6th and 12 Armies. The 5th Army headquarters was transferred from Lutsk in  Dunaevtsy, where he left with the 36th and 49th Corps. From the Odessa Military District troops, augmented by KOVO, HVO and the North Caucasus Military District, were launched with the 9th Army (headquarters in Grossulovo) consisting of 7, 35, 37, 55 Infantry Corps and 5th Cavalry Corps. All of the troops of the Southern Front comprises 32 infantry, 2 mechanized infantry, 6 cavalry divisions, 11 tank and 3 airborne brigades, 14 corps artillery regiments, 16 artillery regiments GDH and 4 great power artillery battalions. The total number of forces groups up to 460.000 men with 12.000 guns and mortars and about 3.000 tanks. Grouping of the Air Force Front units 21 fighter-, 12 medium bomber-, 4 Long-Range bomber-, 4 light bomber-, 4 heavy bomber air regiments, and employs 2.160 aircraft. For the impact on the enemy forces Political Department of the front was printed 6 million leaflets, which on June 27 have been loaded into the aircraft. - Prutskaya march 1940 (Bessarabia operation) from the book Meltyuhov MI Lost Chance of Stalin. The Soviet Union and the Struggle for Europe: 1939-1941 (documents, facts and opinions). M. Veche, 2000.

If the Crown Council decided resistence how much time could we have? Woud have been helped or attacked by the neighbors? Would Moldova or Valachia occupied by the soviets? Would the germans and hungarians occupied Transsilvania?

The Dniester provided better natural obstacle than the Prut.
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Posted: March 16, 2010 09:36 pm
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You are right osutacincizecisidoi,
but if I am not mistaken, the deployment of Romanian troops from Moldavia and Bessarabia in summer 1940 shows an intent to abandon Bessarabia in case of massive Soviet invasion. Only cavalry units present there, with no massive infantry or artillery forces...
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Posted: March 17, 2010 08:40 am
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QUOTE (ANDREAS @ March 16, 2010 09:36 pm)
You are right osutacincizecisidoi,
but if I am not mistaken, the deployment of Romanian troops from Moldavia and Bessarabia in summer 1940 shows an intent to abandon Bessarabia in case of massive Soviet invasion. Only cavalry units present there, with no massive infantry or artillery forces...

Do you have a link or book for that info ?
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Posted: March 17, 2010 09:33 pm
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osutacincizecisidoi,
I actually have just a map describing the disposition of army units on november 1939, information I took in conjunction with testimonies on the withdrawal of Romanian troops from Bessarabia in summer of 1940. The map can be seen in a book-atlas called "Armata Romana in al doilea razboi mondial", edited by Muzeul Militar National, published by Ed.Meridiane Bucuresti 1995.
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