Unit ID needed

[21 inf]

My tradition keeping association, Datina Străbună from Transylvania, is colaborating to czech military history clubs trying to identify locations were romanian soldiers died in ww2 in Czechoslovakia, in order to have them properly buried and having their graves properly marked and respected. In this purpose, I need to identify some romanian units which were at the end of the war stationed close to Brno. Can you help me identify what units was about? The units were:

R.9.Cal. - Regimentul 9 Călăraşi?
GR.19S - ???
C.D. - ???
G.81.S - ???
C.10.P. - Compania 10 Pionieri ???
R.94.I - Regimentul 94 Infanterie

Any help it will be greatly welcome!

[Victor]

The 9th Calarasi Regiment had been part of the 7th Cavalry Division that was disbanded in 1943 in order to reconstruct the 1st Cavalry Division. I do not know what became of this regiment.

C. 10 P. is more likely the 10th Police Company. The pioneers usually had independent battalions assigned to division HQ, rather than companies.

[21 inf]

The czechs say that R 9 Călăraşi was near Brno at the end of ww2. Thanks for the variant for C10P. Our collaborators from the romanian authorities are working also to ID this units. If interested, I'll let you know about what we find.

[21 inf]

First solid feedback from our czech friends, identifying one ww2 romanian soldier grave in a czech forest. The manner in which the soldier was burried, in a earth hole, with no markings, in the forest, with spent cartriges around, with equipment on him, make me suspect that he was buried in the foxhole he died back in 1944 or 1945. We are colaborating with romanian authorities from Romania and embassies from abroad (which are already anounced about the finding) in order to have him properly burried in a romanian military cemetery in Czech Republic. I am not giving the exact location of the grave to protect it from grave diggers. I'll let you know about further development of this enterprise.

Earth hole, shallow grave


Spent ww2 romanian ammo


Equipment belonging to the romanian soldier burried in the shallow grave

[21 inf]

Unfortunatelly, despite all efforts we made, no aswer was given yet by romanian authorities to our czech friends, in order to help to decently burry that romanian soldier. A pale try made by romanian embassy this month didnt gave any results yet. ONCE made nothing, even if the czechs wrote to them 2 times and we wrote to them 5 times and called also 4 or 5 times. Romanian authorities gave only empty words or ... nothing.

In six months we couldn't make romanian authorities to move a finger. The czech friends are puzzled by the total lack of eficiency of romanian authorities and their lack of interes, especially in this case, when all financial issues were to be suported by our military history club and by the czechs.

The only certain news are that in the area relic hunters were spotted. If they find the grave, it's fate is doomed.

[21 inf]

We are able now to confirm that at last, Romanian Embassy from Prague is eager to help moving the unknown romanian soldier found by our czech reenactors friends to a military cemetery. The digging will oficially start 2 or 3 weeks from now. A ceremonial will be held when the soldier will be reburied. Our military history club, a friendly romanian and czech military history clubs, Asociaţia Naţională Cultul Eroilor and the representative of Romanian Embassy from Prague will participate at the event.

Further informations will follow, as the things will move on.

[Victor]

That's good news for a change.

[21 inf]

ONCE contacted at last, few days ago, the czech part. We'll see what will happen now. Details will follow this week.

[21 inf]

Almost 1 year after the first post about this subject and a lot of phones, mails and letters sent to some romanian authorities contacted (between them ONCE and romanian embassy from the country involved) and some czech authorities also responsible for the area ... nobody did anything. The unknown romanian soldier is still lying forgot in his WW2 unmarked shallow grave. Everybody (both romanian and czech authorities) are just sitting and say to each other that the other have to do something. The few papers I know romanian authorities issued in this case remained worthless in the maze of bureaucratic systems of both countries. Shame on those who has the resorts to do something and didn't bothered enough.

[21 inf]

As romanian authorities did nothing for this romanian soldier, the czech part decided to exhume him. Finally, the romanian military attache from Wien participated to the event. He also brought with him an orthodox priest. The exhumation took place on 6th of June 2012 in the presence of Czech authorities. No dogtags were found in the shallow grave, so the soldier cant be identified. It were found cavalry romanian boots model 1940. The soldier probably belong to Romanian 9th Cavalry Division. The remains were stored for further medical investigations and will be reburied in Brno Romanian military cemetery at a date yet unknown.

This post has been edited by 21 inf on June 12, 2012 07:17 am

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The items found on the romanian soldier shallow grave are presented on the photos bellow. The forensic doctor apreciated that he was 20-25 years old, had 164 centimeters high. On the os scaphoideum on the left hand is was a cutting injury that is healed. Fibula bear traces of inflammation. On the spurs, the coins are of 10 bani and 1 leu.













photos courtesy to one of Czechs who participated at the official exhumation.

[muggs]

Thanks for sharing.

[21 inf]

A new opinion says that the soldier might be from artillery, not cavalry. Arguments: the specific rosets for cavalry boots were not found in the grave. Also, the soldier seems to be buried in his greatcoat, as a great button for greatcoat was found.

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The odyssey of the romanian unknown soldier found by our czech friends from 43 pesi pluk military history club came to an end on 24th of October 2012. The czech guys reburied him with full military honours, including a rifle salvo, in the romanian military cemetery from Brno, among his romanian brother-in-arms killed in WW2. Being forget by his own country, who did nothing after he was found after almost 70 years despite our many months efforts, he was honoured by the foreigners, who regarded him as one of their own. A romanian oficial attended the ceremony, but we will not name him, as he did nothing for the whole process, except of a late moment anouncement that he will participate. Our guys from our romanian military history club couldnt attend the event, even if we planned to go to Brno. A good romanian friend of us from Oradea participated on his own expense. He was part of our efforts, from the begining, to convince romanian authorities to do something for the romanian unknown soldier.

Images from this event can be see at http://6dorobanti.ro/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1351161663/0#9 (I am posting the link in order not to repeat here what was said and posted there).

[muggs]

Very impressive, "Jos Palaria" to all that were involved in this.