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Posted: November 29, 2011 01:17 pm
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Disregard the writing on the back, it's just the number of the photo or something, other photos in the album had also numbers like 17, 19 etc
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Posted: December 01, 2011 07:54 am
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QUOTE (seeker @ November 28, 2011 10:37 pm)
QUOTE (Victor @ November 28, 2011 08:02 pm)
It can't be an indication of water level since those usually have a ruler on them to measure the water level. It's most likely a distance marker.

143.9 km means about 80 nautical miles. That is near Galati, not Tulcea, according to this: http://www.afdj.ro/cote/bhsemn.pdf (see the second page of the pdf file)

Victor, sailors are working with miles not km, so maybe it's miles indicator.
My father was in the navy some years ago.

If you would bother to follow the link I posted, you would notice that the nautical miles measurement ends at Galati. After Galati, going upstream, it's in kilometers. This is probably due to the fact that the "sea-going Danube" (Dunarea maritima) ends about there. I suspect the "Sea-going Danube" was even shorter during WW2.
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Posted: December 01, 2011 09:19 am
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The wreck looks very much line an Il-4 (a.k.a DB-3F).

The location is without a doubt Tulcea. The photo was taken from across the Danube, looking towards the city (most likely location in Google Earth, somewhere around Long. 45°11'34.89"N / Lat. 28°48'21.62"E).
You can see a hill in the background. That is called Dealul Monumentului and at the top there is a monument called Monumentul Independentei erected after the War of Independence - this monument can be seen faintly in the picture.
In the mid-nineties I worked for a summer with a UN-backed medical project in the Danube Delta and I lived in an apartment on the waterfront. Places along that shore were used as a beach by the locals (as well as us), so that view is quite familiar.

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Posted: December 01, 2011 09:47 am
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The wreck is now beyond doubts this of a DB-3B or DB-3F
and if crash site can be confirmed as Tulcea then matches the date
of a 40 BAP bomber which departed Sarabuz or Karagoz
naval air station lost at Tulcea due to flack and air to
air activity. The plane was lost on 21.7.1941. Entire crew was
listed KIA

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Posted: December 01, 2011 04:37 pm
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Posted: December 02, 2011 06:53 am
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QUOTE (muggs @ November 28, 2011 12:00 pm)
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Pics from the set are from 1941 so i guess this one is from the same year





i suspect this guy of faking the writting on the picture. I think is a ball pen with ink, and the writting i saw on many pictures. On other hand...german ww2 pictures i've seen were written on back. Here other pic with the same writting. dry.gif


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http://www.ebay.de/itm/Kubelwagen-Pkw-Kfz-...=item56474ae9cb

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Posted: December 02, 2011 07:32 am
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Well..what would be fake about them if the location is confirmed ? Indeed there are not many pisc overwritten with a marker but they might aswell been adnotated in the recent years.

Another He 111 !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTERESTING-Romani...8#ht_500wt_1202

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Posted: December 02, 2011 09:05 am
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QUOTE (seeker @ December 02, 2011 06:53 am)

i suspect this guy of faking the writting on the picture. I think is a ball pen with ink, and the writting i saw on many pictures. On other hand...german ww2 pictures i've seen were written on back. Here other pic with the same writting.

Nah! You can see that it is written with a fountain pen in Prussian Blue ink. The back indicates that the photos were pulled from an album where they were glued firmly, that is why the writing is on the front just like in many other albums of that time. Looks "real" to me.

In any case, "faking" is used to push up prices, not when telling the truth. If the "counterfeiter" had said that the wreck was photographed in, say, Stalingrad, just to make it more "apetising" to gullible buyers, it would make sense to call it a "fake". But the writing seems to be just telling things as they are.

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Posted: December 02, 2011 09:37 am
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I don't think the text on the photos is faked, but rather
genuine and this beyond any doubt. Though , Ebay
is synonimous for fakes but again I would exclude
this case. On a special note, I have other opinions
from Rumania which norrowed down the location
as Tulcea...and last dilema is if DB-3B or 3F

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Posted: December 05, 2011 07:25 am
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Propaganda pic from 1939 showing PZL P11 ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1939-Original-Phot...#ht_2494wt_1510
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Posted: December 05, 2011 12:39 pm
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Yes, it is.
I already have an original copy of this photo.

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Posted: December 08, 2011 06:50 pm
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Posted: December 09, 2011 07:43 am
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IAR 3x

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http://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Militar-Flugze...4#ht_500wt_1156

ARR General ?

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http://www.ebay.de/itm/Z127-Rumanien-Gener...a#ht_500wt_1156

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Posted: December 09, 2011 07:43 pm
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I recognise the top hand writing. biggrin.gif

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Posted: December 10, 2011 08:27 am
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"General de Flieger Vasillo".
General Av. Vasiliu?
Note the date. Monarchists! rolleyes.gif
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