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Victor |
Posted: December 24, 2011 09:22 pm
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I intended to buy the book after I heard of it on TV several months ago, but somehow it skipped my mind. Now I'm really going to get it. |
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MMM |
Posted: December 25, 2011 07:53 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Obviously, but it it bother them so much as to invade us, too? oh, another thing that's pretty uch an urban legend: When did Romania refuse to take part in the "Danube" operation? The Warsaw Pact did not even think at inviting Romania to that!!! -------------------- M
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ANDREAS |
Posted: December 25, 2011 01:59 pm
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 814 Member No.: 2421 Joined: March 15, 2009 |
Well MMM, it was (...ar fi fost...) the height of stupidity to invite us! The invasion occurred after tensions, latent threats, negotiations a.o. that have stretched from the spring of 1968 until the invasion of august... During all this period our leaders have always been on the side, and openly supported the Czechoslovak leadership, so... |
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IoanTM |
Posted: January 05, 2012 09:58 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 22 Member No.: 3229 Joined: January 04, 2012 |
This seems to be somehow a wrong question - the correct one would be probably the following : Why the Soviet Army restrained itself for such an opportunity as another invasion ? In a dictatorship like USSR - which heavily relied on army forces to maintain its internal structure - such opportunities are usually nice to be exploited as a reward ... or just to keep busy the officers ... |
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Petre |
Posted: January 06, 2012 09:53 am
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 894 Member No.: 2434 Joined: March 24, 2009 |
Well, well ! It seems to be too much... The Soviet Army was not by itself. Also, in those years they were not big problems with the internal structure and, anyway, that was a KGB mission ... |
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IoanTM |
Posted: January 06, 2012 10:04 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 22 Member No.: 3229 Joined: January 04, 2012 |
Invasion of Czechoslovakia was not at all a KGB operation - but a real&complete Soviet Army operation. |
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Petre |
Posted: January 06, 2012 03:31 pm
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 894 Member No.: 2434 Joined: March 24, 2009 |
Please, don't get me wrong.
It was about "... USSR - which heavily relied on army forces to maintain its internal structure ..." |
IoanTM |
Posted: January 10, 2012 10:08 pm
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 22 Member No.: 3229 Joined: January 04, 2012 |
OK - I get it now. But I still maintain my previous argument : despite the infamous reputation and discretionary power of KGB ( and Securitate and so on ) the Army in ex-communist states post-WWII usually enjoy an even larger power-base - dedicated enterprises, scores of conscripts to be used for "private benefit" too not for military instruction ( as normal should ), generous budgets and wages for ( inflated ) number of upper-ranks, whose enjoyed privileges too and so on. After fall of communism the Army-officers managed somehow to "clean" their public image while Secret Services officers remains ( the only ) scapegoats ... but this doesn't change the fact that the Army was a crucial institution too to maintain the establishment in Soviet Union. |
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ANDREAS |
Posted: January 11, 2012 12:37 am
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 814 Member No.: 2421 Joined: March 15, 2009 |
@IoanTM
I disagree with you if you refer to Romania and Romanian Army, especially after 1980! About the other countries from the Eastern Block and Soviet Union I believe you are right! |
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IoanTM |
Posted: January 11, 2012 01:06 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 22 Member No.: 3229 Joined: January 04, 2012 |
It's an interesting to discuss point - but generally I tend to agree with you ... In '80 - especially when Ceausescu started to "milk" the armament industry in order to obtain the needed foreign currency to pay the external debt ... there was somehow a "breaking point" in his relation with the Army ... |
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