ARR VINTAGE SCALE MODELS

I invite everyone to post here pictures with youre ARR vintage scale models. I know there is a section for modelling and art but i post here since is about only ARR aircrafts.

In the last 5 years i found some IAR80's made from aluminium and chromed steel. No info about them.


I'M INTERESTED IN BUYING MODELS LIKE THESE.











a Bloch





This post has been edited by seeker on November 01, 2011 07:30 am

beautifull wooden large scale Savoia-Marchetti 62bis-went to Germany

iar 80 desk model







support is made from aluminium, maybe aircraft parts...who knows.


ash tray



written is "RRAF"= Royal Romanian Air Force?

i forgot this one...

IAR80 made 20 years ago by a friend, i know it's not perfect...but i like it as it is.

I've built this IAR a few years ago


http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?pag...mupload&newlp=1

http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?pag...mupload&newlp=1

http://img690.imageshack.us/content_round....0/hughesh14.jpg

and talking about IAR-80...the similarities between Hughes H1 and IAR-80
are bluffing...who knows maybe one of the IAR designers decided to
replicate it at Brasov.


AL

This post has been edited by yugit on November 03, 2011 11:05 am

Nice IAR!

It's actually derivated from PZL...from what i know. here are some specialists in IAR so they can say exactly. As for the design....US aviators did dogfights in Romania with a lot of Focke Wulfs and Fiat fighters(in real...IAR80).

Several years ago I made the same remark after seing the autobigrafic moovie about HH.
Also the FW 190 looks very similar.

Seeker

can you point out which PZL fighter was used by IAR Brasov
as design sample ? I don't agree 100 % with you that IAR 80
was a derivative of PZL as IAR Brasov had definitely a better
design team inclined towards fighters than PZL. In general
all Polish bombers and fighters were lagging behind the other
W.European designs , inculding the Soviets.


I still believe that IAR used Howard Huges racer in their
blueprints.

C-2

Thanks for your remarks.

Al

This post has been edited by yugit on November 03, 2011 08:16 pm

On different sites i saw the info that the rear fuselage an the tail are from PZL 24, i find resembleces also with the engine hood. Maybe Cantacuzino or RADUB will give you exact info.

Seeker, I saw for sale 2 vintage models at a antique store in Brasov, in the center, on the street were Gott Pub is, if you are interested.

Yes and no...
At the time when the I.A.R.80 was designed, the P.Z.L.11 and 24 were manufactured by I.A.R. Brasov under licence and the all-metal construction was the most sophisticated aviation technology in production in Romania at the time. So, the engineers and designers were strongly influenced by the design and tooling.
The prototype flew with a rear fuselage section similar to that of a P.Z.L.11. The production aircraft was completely different. On the production airframe, the section from the rear of the cockpit to the rudder was roughly similar to that of the P.Z.L. with one major difference. On the P.Z.L. the thrust line and the datum line were the same. On the I.A.R. the datum line was slightly below the thrust line (due to the differences in fuselage length and weight) and as a result the fuselage "drops" slightly and gradually from the cockpit to the rudder (for balance purposes)in comparison with the P.Z.L. fuselage.
So, the truth is that the rear fuselage of the I.A.R.80 was inspired by the P.Z.L. fuselage but it was not identical. Apart from that, there was no further similarity in any other place.
The engine hood has no relation to any P.Z.L. item.
HTH
Radu

Radu

Interesting remarks, thank you. I understand that you have an aeronautical
background, mind to tell me which one ?

Well , a far relative of my uncle worked during initial development stages
of the IAR-80 at Brasov at the division related to the electrical systems
and something what we call today avionics of this aircraft. I remember
him visiting my family in Bucharest in the late 50's when he was
removed from IAR and telling stories about his engineering meetings
with VDO and Jaeger of that time , as well SIAI and Caprone . It seems
that he was a bud with Dudu Frim with whom he visited twice Germany.

No matter if IAR-80 series was a Polish or a US copy, it was a
remarkable airplane at that time one can only admire.


BR
Al

This post has been edited by yugit on November 04, 2011 10:13 am

I do not have an aeronautical background.
I am what you may call an "aviation enthusiast" and I have been researching the I.A.R.80 for more than half of my life.
Radu

That might have been the case in a limited number of instances in late-1943. By the summer of 1944, the Americans had a very good idea who they were pitted against. There were plenty of debriefing reports from US aviators describing the I.A.R.80 as what it was.
Radu