Romanian Military History Forum - Part of Romanian Army in the Second World War Website



Pages: (2) 1 [2]   ( Go to first unread post ) Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

> Brand new romanian assault rifle?, original product or an inspired one?
udar
Posted: April 15, 2012 12:34 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier
*

Group: Members
Posts: 281
Member No.: 354
Joined: September 24, 2004



QUOTE (contras @ April 14, 2012 01:47 pm)
Could be this one?

http://rumaniamilitary.wordpress.com/2012/...n-sfarsit-poze/

I dont think so, that seem to be some German HK G-36 rifles

More probably to be something along this line (this is Cugir made rifles exported in US and slightly modified there). Ofcourse, is just my supposition, it may be something totally different ofcourse

user posted image
user posted image

AK is not bad at all, if they work a little to ergonomy and put some good solid optic devices on it too it will be still one of the best rifles around. Simple, very reliable, good accuracy, local made, quite light (or similar with other assault rifles) and even short size to carry with a folding stock.

The main change will be probably the cartridge, the new rifle will be in 5,56x45 mm calibre. Not as good as 5,45x39 mm i think, with some advantages and disadvantages over 7,62x39 mm, but well, is the main calibre used in NATO

This post has been edited by udar on April 15, 2012 12:40 pm
PMEmail Poster
Top
Iamandi
Posted: April 15, 2012 02:52 pm
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1386
Member No.: 319
Joined: August 04, 2004



QUOTE (contras @ April 14, 2012 01:47 pm)
Could be this one?

http://rumaniamilitary.wordpress.com/2012/...n-sfarsit-poze/

As usual... he wears the fez on his foot, to say so. But if he impaled himself with that, let's smile a little more: here are my pics from the testing range with one of the new assault rifle from Cugir: http://www.resboiu.ro/2012/04/15/poze-de-l...lt-de-la-cugir/My Webpage
PMUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
ANDREAS
Posted: April 15, 2012 03:07 pm
Quote Post


Locotenent colonel
*

Group: Members
Posts: 814
Member No.: 2421
Joined: March 15, 2009



Iamandi the gun you posted would not really be something new as they claim, its a PA md.86 with elements of the PM md.90 and inspiration after IMI Galil ... with updated elements from other rifles... but, I admit I like it! Hope the future automatic rifle would resemble more with this, than with the one posted earlier... who looks different, more distant of his AK origins... but somehow outdated and ugly for my taste... tongue.gif
PMEmail PosterYahoo
Top
Iamandi
Posted: May 21, 2012 06:26 am
Quote Post


General de divizie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1386
Member No.: 319
Joined: August 04, 2004



No, i only posted some pictures with me and one HK G-36 airsoft replica. smile.gif

But if you want to see me with the real brand new romanian assault rifle...

http://www.resboiu.ro/2012/05/17/bsda-2012...durda-automata/

... and some more pictures here:

http://www.resboiu.ro/2012/05/17/bsda-2012...alt-romaneasca/

This post has been edited by Iamandi on May 21, 2012 06:28 am
PMUsers WebsiteYahoo
Top
udar
Posted: May 22, 2012 08:50 pm
Quote Post


Plutonier
*

Group: Members
Posts: 281
Member No.: 354
Joined: September 24, 2004



QUOTE (Iamandi @ May 21, 2012 06:26 am)
No, i only posted some pictures with me and one HK G-36 airsoft replica. smile.gif

But if you want to see me with the real brand new romanian assault rifle...

http://www.resboiu.ro/2012/05/17/bsda-2012...durda-automata/

... and some more pictures here:

http://www.resboiu.ro/2012/05/17/bsda-2012...alt-romaneasca/

Thanks for pics Iamandi

And well, they keep the AK platform, which is a good one, the most reliable in existance for now.

They put ambidextrous comands, a good point, as well a reinforced cover with a top rail which is not totally removable. This is another good point.

They can put the back sights more behind, near to the end of top cover or rail, i hope they will do that with the final product.
And they will work a bit to weight, i think is a bit heavy. I mean, the rifle i posted in the previous post and which is made by the same Cugir (but is in 7.62x39 caliber) i understand have just around 2.73 kg empty. I hope they will reduce the weight to the new rifle around 3.5 kg maybe.

I know it have a longer barrel (needed for smaller calibres which depend on velocity more then "heavier bullets) but still i think they reduce somehow the weight.

The optic looks good, IOR is one of the best in the world, well, in top there at least, i am sure is a very good scope. Not sure however how much it costs and how many rifles will have that optic scope attached

This post has been edited by udar on May 22, 2012 08:52 pm
PMEmail Poster
Top
ANDREAS
Posted: May 23, 2012 08:09 pm
Quote Post


Locotenent colonel
*

Group: Members
Posts: 814
Member No.: 2421
Joined: March 15, 2009



Many thanks Iamandi! I must admit that I have exceeded my initial skepticism, and I like the new weapon at least in appearance... must see also the weapon characteristics! But thanks to you we have a starting point of this topic!
PMEmail PosterYahoo
Top
Victor
Posted: May 26, 2012 07:03 am
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 4350
Member No.: 3
Joined: February 11, 2003



I think the looks are not that important. Reliability and functionality are more important. They should equip the battalion stationed in Afghanistan with it and see how it fares in day-to-day operations.
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Petre
Posted: May 26, 2012 08:48 am
Quote Post


Locotenent colonel
*

Group: Members
Posts: 894
Member No.: 2434
Joined: March 24, 2009



Usually, the troops go on the front with weapons they know very well how they shoot.
On the other hand, in Afghanistan they do not really shoot.

PMEmail Poster
Top
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

Topic Options Pages: (2) 1 [2]  Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

 






[ Script Execution time: 0.0107 ]   [ 14 queries used ]   [ GZIP Enabled ]