TACAM

It would seem that for the Romanian troops operating a TACAM, it required more than the normal amount of courage expected from any soldier of any country to stand up to a real tank like the T-34.
Any comparisons end at being comparably armed.
Even the fianl projected TACAM version with a German 88mm gun by 1944 - 45 standards would still seem a bit long in the tooth given the minimal armor and performance.
Used as overwatch for Maresals, the TACAM 88 might have worked well.

First off, you are comparing apples and oranges. TACAM was not a tank, it was a mobile anti-tank gun platform. Pretty much in the same category as the Nashorn and the Marder, which comparatively have about the same armour thickness. Agreed, in the same category you have StuG and Hetzer, Jagdpanther/Jagdpanzer - but the main difference is the production cost. As Stalin said, quantity has a quality of its own. The main strength of these weapons was ability to be easily concealed, rather than armour protection.

I'm not aware of attempts of mounting the 88mm gun on mobile platforms, but TACAMs were already overgunned for their chassis, in detriment of stability. A biger gun would have probably cause the vehicle to jump on its tracks. Remember that TACAM projects were a disperate attempt to make an efective weapon against Soviet armor with available materials, not to make a great design.

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The main strength of these weapons was ability to be easily concealed

TACAM R-2 had a high profile (2.32 m), comparable with T-34 !

Maybe the sole advantage of TACAMs was that they could be abandoned quickly by the crew. :cry:

dragos:
The excellent "Third Axis Fourth Ally" on page 225 mentions consideration of TACAM R-2's going over to the 75mm Resita or German 88mm.

here's a nice kit of it:

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2003...eborn_tacam.htm :wink:

Are there any o blueprints of tacam r1 and tacam t 38?

An old issue of "Modelism" magazine (from around 1990) deals with TACAM R 2 (plans - if I remember correctly, technical details and history). Those issues used to be available for buyng on CD support, at an accessible price - I don't know if they still are.

Dear Sirs,
drawing for modellers in M1:35, see the Russian magazine Bronekollektsiya 2003, No. 4, in article: Light tank LT vz.35.



This post has been edited by JiriTintera on July 20, 2013 04:52 pm

thank for your responses but i was looking for tacam r1 or tacam t 38
are any blueprints of this? were ever created?

Dear "sebipatru",
tank destroyers on the chassis of the R-1 and T-38 were not completed. Projects were reportedly stopped in the preparatory phase. For more information you can provide senior editor Modelism magazine, and author of the following book: Mr. Cristian Crãciunoiu, who lives in Bucharest.

Mark Axworthy, Cornel Scafeș, Cristian Crãciunoiu: Third Axis. Fourth Ally. Romanian Armed Forces in the European War, 1941-1945, Arms and Armour, London, 1995. ISBN 1-85409-267-7

This post has been edited by JiriTintera on July 21, 2013 04:54 pm

i know that they were never built tacam r 1 because it was an obsolete project already and tacam t 38 because it was searching a way to built proper tacam r2 the other 20 unupgraded r2
but i was asking if this 2 vehicles were just some two ideas or someone started to work of these 2 projects, to the stage of blueprints because there was no prototype built

This post has been edited by sebipatru on July 21, 2013 09:02 pm

Dear "sebipatru",
I do not have access to the Romanian archives, so I put a link to Mr. Cristian Crãciunoiu.

Mr. Craciunoiu died a while ago.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on July 22, 2013 05:36 pm

This made me very sorry, selflessly helped me several times.

Honor his memory.

Mr. Craciunioiu died a while ago.

Gen. Dénes

I didn’t know that either.

Cristian Craciunoiu was a pioneer of the military modelism in Romania during (and post) the communist era, and among the few important figures who contributed to popularize the military history in the last decades of the last century. He created the "Modelism" magazine in a barren editorial landscape - first as a supplement to the "Tehnium" revue (starting 1970s) and then as a separate publication.

May he rest in peace!