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Posted: October 15, 2009 11:03 pm
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QUOTE (Hummel @ October 15, 2009 05:27 pm)
"My grandfather fought there. Thankfully he came back home. Many of his buddies did not."

Who called here for your grandfather?

Off topic, but needs clarification.
The answer is simple. He was a soldier. He followed orders. He went there because his country wanted him to go.

The situation was the same for your grandfather. Otherwise someone may ask exactly the same question you did: "Who called there (i.e., to go to Koenigsberg) for your grandfather?"

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Posted: October 16, 2009 05:16 am
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QUOTE (Dénes @ September 15, 2009 06:17 pm)
QUOTE (C-2 @ September 15, 2009 05:31 pm)
Nobody asked those German,Romanian,Italian,Hungarian etc to come to HIS TOWN,to bomb it,to kill his citizens and to burn it.

This is the point where politics starts to mix with history. And we should avoid it.

With the same logic, nobody beyond the USSR borders asked Soviet troops to "liberate" their country. But they did it nevertheless. This is politics.
Let's stick to (military) history, please.

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I quess we have to stick with the subject of the topic.
It is me who started,and I'm sorry for that.
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Posted: October 16, 2009 08:11 am
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OK, agree.

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Posted: October 16, 2009 08:40 am
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QUOTE (Hummel @ October 15, 2009 11:27 am)
Who called here for your grandfather?

What kind of question is that? blink.gif

Are you somehow of the opinion that my grandfather left Mehedinti one day for no apparent reason, made his way all by himself across mountains and fields through thousands of kilometres all the way to Stalingrad, along the way he somehow found a uniform and a gun and then for no apparent reason he began to shoot Russians? Really?

Before that, he also fought in Crimea. Later, he was shot and spent a long time recovering in Tarnaveni.

In actual fact, he had the Russians in front of him and a court martial behind him. My grandfather had no choice. You do!

As I said before, I have no problem with your digging, as long as you treat what you find with the due respect. By asking such silly questions, you show further proof that you have no respect or understanding of what you are digging. Obviously you are not doing this for the love of history but raher for the hate you harbour for these people. Shame!

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Posted: October 16, 2009 11:12 am
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You like provocation.
You begin to inscribe here, grandfathers and so on.
What is the problem I dig stuff from the war?
If there is a relative of Basil or Drugova soldier that I would not give this dog tag?
You do not like Russia, and for that I must love thee?
If your grandfather shot my grandfather?
I did not want to find out sdes personal relationships and politics of states. But I can see you want, you're an expert in archeology? You are rubbish is not the first time in my topic on the forum.You open Do not be rude to me. how old are you?
wink.gif I came here with respect and with the world, you want war?
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Posted: October 16, 2009 11:17 am
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QUOTE (Dénes @ October 15, 2009 11:03 pm)
QUOTE (Hummel @ October 15, 2009 05:27 pm)
"My grandfather fought there. Thankfully he came back home. Many of his buddies did not."

Who called here for your grandfather?

Off topic, but needs clarification.
The answer is simple. He was a soldier. He followed orders. He went there because his country wanted him to go.

The situation was the same for your grandfather. Otherwise someone may ask exactly the same question you did: "Who called there (i.e., to go to Koenigsberg) for your grandfather?"

Gen. Dénes

This to me is clear as day.
But, no, I started this senseless conversation.
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Posted: October 16, 2009 11:17 am
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CAlm down calm down.
No wars on this forum.
We had enought before.

Stalin is long go,and Sharapova is here.

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Posted: October 16, 2009 02:53 pm
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QUOTE (C-2 @ October 16, 2009 05:17 pm)
Stalin is long go..

True, but his ghost still haunts the moscowites pasing through the Kurskaya metro (subway) station. ph34r.gif
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[Source: http://www.rferl.org/content/Moscow_Metro_...in/1809381.html]

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Posted: October 16, 2009 06:30 pm
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Well,from what I heard,this metro was Stalin's greatest achivment.
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Posted: October 16, 2009 08:16 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ October 16, 2009 02:53 pm)
QUOTE (C-2 @ October 16, 2009 05:17 pm)
Stalin is long go..

True, but his ghost still haunts the moscowites pasing through the Kurskaya metro (subway) station. ph34r.gif
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[Source: http://www.rferl.org/content/Moscow_Metro_...in/1809381.html]

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What this man is better than Stalin?
http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Antonescu


You do not realize that your attitude to Russia you make a new war, for me at all from the old quarter where many distrust is not good?
you need to understand how you relate to us so we will be applicable to you.

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Posted: October 17, 2009 07:33 am
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QUOTE (Hummel @ October 17, 2009 02:16 am)
You do not realize that your attitude to Russia you make a new war...

This was against Stalin, not Russia! Stalin was the greatest dictator and biggest butcher of the XXth Century.

If you say Stalin=Russia, then it's really a big problem, and this may be cause for new/renewed hostility...

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Posted: October 17, 2009 09:28 am
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Staln was Georgian.
So he has nothing to do with Russia.

Now let's calm down.

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Posted: October 17, 2009 06:51 pm
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Stalin was a dictator that killed his own people, he sent milions to the russian gulag. Hope he burns in hell biggrin.gif
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Posted: October 18, 2009 07:59 am
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Reply erased by myself.
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Posted: October 19, 2009 09:01 am
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QUOTE (C-2 @ October 17, 2009 09:28 am)
Staln was Georgian.
So he has nothing to do with Russia.

Now let's calm down.

allso Hitler was from Austria but when you say Hitler you think to Germany, no?
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