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cipiamon |
Posted: February 16, 2004 05:05 pm
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Soon the IAR 80 will be flyable in the game "FORGOTTEN BATTLES" (the best ww2 aircraft simulator) the only problem is that they need help tweekink the roll rate, turn rate, climb rate, dive rate, etc.
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Der Maresal |
Posted: February 16, 2004 06:03 pm
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Maybe you can ask Oleg, the designer about that.
I think the game is pretty much finished by now (on some US sites you can already pre-order it ) It's comming out in early march. We'll talk about this one more in the General Comments section. Can't wait to fly the Romanian Campaign. I think the problems you mentioned with roll rate, climb etc.. will be fixed in patches you can dowload from www.il2sturmovik.com :wink: PS: I'll fly with you online! What plane will you be using? |
cipiamon |
Posted: February 16, 2004 07:30 pm
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A friend of mine that also colaboarated at the romanian campaign already has the IAR80, but i heard is kind of un-acurate, is kind of hard to fly, that is why i am trying to gather some information on the plane to help them upgrade it.
Personaly i can't fly on line :cry: , my amator provider has a crazy firewall. |
cipiamon |
Posted: February 16, 2004 09:21 pm
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this is kind of urgent :oops:
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Florin |
Posted: February 17, 2004 05:58 am
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A former colleague from Romania, whose father was an IAR-80 pilot, told me that his father never could reach even close to the rated maximum 510 km/h (300 miles/hour).
He also told me (according to what he learnt from his father) that they attached a weight under the tail, to counter-balance the center of weight. Well, this is strange a little, because you are supposed to do that with the aerodynamic forces around the tail. However, the 510 km/h were proven in test, and can be found in international encyclopedias about airplanes. |
Victor |
Posted: February 17, 2004 08:07 pm
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The book Vanatorul IAR-80 by Dan Antoniu & George Cicos contains the report of the testing of the first aircraft of the series production. However, you must understand that this data is only valid for the IAR-80 subtype (4x7.92mm MGs), not also for the A or 81C subtypes.
Climb rates: 500m 21 sec 1000m 1 min 3 sec 2000m 2 min 35 sec 3000m 3 min 58 sec 4000m 4 min 40 sec 5000m 6 min 41 sec 6000m 8 min 17 sec For the turn rate we can consider a German test pilot's opinion, who thought it was equivalent to that of a Bf-109E. For more data, let's hope mr. Cicos will see this thread and reply. Btw, Florin, the 510km/h top speed was the rated speed only for the prototype. For the series aircraft it was 485 km/h. |
cipiamon |
Posted: February 17, 2004 08:47 pm
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Thank you very much :mrgreen:
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cuski |
Posted: February 17, 2004 10:08 pm
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The reason he couldn't achieve that, is mainly because max speeds are determined from aircraft that are stripped of armament and unnecessary (for the test) equipment. |
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Victor |
Posted: February 18, 2004 06:49 am
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No. The tests were carried out with all the weapons andequipment (or equivalentweight) onboard. As I explained it was the prototype that reached that speed. However the first series aircraft differed from it. |
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Florin |
Posted: February 18, 2004 02:39 pm
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Thank you for your notes, Victor. I knew somehow that only the prototype reached 510 km/h, but I did not want to believe it.
I guess in the books published in Romania after 1990 it is explained in what way the prototype differed from the serial product. As far as I know, the prototype was also equipped with the Romanian motor, so it should not be from there. |