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Carol I
Posted: August 19, 2005 09:36 pm
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QUOTE (C-2 @ Aug 16 2005, 01:07 PM)
I have a funny story.Sort of...
When Soviets entered Iassi ,they entered a Natural history museum.
There were a lot of recipients with formol and dif animals conserved inside.
Some soldiers darnk the formol thinking it's alcohol....
A stupid way to die... blink.gif

I have heard the very same story told about the natural history museum in Bucharest. I wonder if it has some truth in it or if it is only a legend.
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Posted: August 20, 2005 09:39 am
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I don't know about Buc.
About Iassi ,I heard the story from the son of a care taker ,who was arested because the death of the soldiers.
There were many cases that Soviets drank methilic alchool insted of ethilic.
So what's the big dif.in the taste regarding formol?
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Carol I
Posted: August 20, 2005 10:05 am
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QUOTE (C-2 @ Aug 20 2005, 10:39 AM)
There were many cases  that Soviets drank methilic alchool insted of ethilic.
So what's the big dif.in the taste regarding formol?

I never tried them so I cannot tell whether there is a difference or not. tongue.gif

Anyhow, the drinking habits of the Soviet soldiers have relatively little to do with the wartime actions in and around Iaşi.
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Posted: August 20, 2005 04:23 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Aug 20 2005, 10:05 AM)
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I never tried them so I cannot tell whether there is a difference or not. tongue.gif


Do not try!
You are useful for the forum!
Drinking some Methilic alcohol will make you blinde and after another dose will kill you.

Ethilic alcohol you can drink as much as you can but you can have after a while "alcoholic coma"
Formol will kill instantly. : ohmy.gif
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Posted: August 20, 2005 04:27 pm
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Bad joke deleted.
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Carol I
Posted: August 20, 2005 04:47 pm
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QUOTE (C-2 @ Aug 20 2005, 05:23 PM)
QUOTE (Carol I @ Aug 20 2005, 10:05 AM)
I never tried them so I cannot tell whether there is a difference or not.  tongue.gif

Do not try!
You are useful for the forum!

Don't worry, it was only a joke (hence the tongue.gif ).

Can we now go back to the fall of Iaşi?
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Carol I
Posted: January 01, 2006 07:29 pm
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I have recently obtained some new elements regarding the fall of Iaşi in the summer of 1944. They are from the recollections of a man who was a teenager during WWII. I found them quite interesting even though after more than 60 years the recollections should be taken with a pinch of salt.

1. Several days before the Soviet offensive, Iaşi has been "invaded" by priests carrying loafs of black bread under their cloak. The priests, speaking Romanian but later identified as Soviet spies, were asking the children only about the location of the German troops in town, in exchange for a loaf of bread.

2. A few days before the offensive, there has been a night bombing of Iaşi targeting the positions of the Germans. The bombing was said to have been carried out by the Allied, possibly the British. The bombing was performed with high accuracy, the targets being illuminated with flares attached to parachutes. As an example of the accuracy of the bombing, the man remembers that the bombs had fallen only on the side of a street close to the railway station that had concentrations of German troops, the other side of the street where was his house being completely spared.

3. For the morning of 20 September 1944 he remembers people gathering in the squares of the cities, the crowds being bombed by the Soviets around 8 o'clock in the morning. The Germans quickly left the city, destroying the bridge over the Bahlui situated in Podu Roş. By 4 o'clock in the afternoon the Russians had occupied the city. He also remembers the encounter with a wounded Soviet officer who, after being held responsible for the Soviet bombing of the civilian crowds that morning, claimed that as soon as they got information that the Germans left the city they stopped the bombings (this would indicate an active network of Soviet spies in the city at that time).

Can these facts be corroborated with information from other sources?
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Posted: January 17, 2006 08:56 am
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My wifes' grandfather told me this past summer that the park above the university had fighting in it. Don't remember if trenches were there or not but does remember the fighting around the university.
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Carol I
Posted: February 06, 2006 03:37 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Jun 28 2004, 08:10 AM)
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AKG PHOTO - published in World War II (March 2001)

Original legend: This street scene shows the damage done in the relatively brief but extremely bitter house-to-house fighting between German and Red Army forces as the Soviet Fifty-second Army closed on Jassy.

Same place, (well) before WWII (from eBay):
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Carol I
Posted: July 23, 2006 09:16 am
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RHaught, I couldn't help noticing the photo below from the album you posted in another thread. According to its legend, it was taken from the location of the WWII German HQ south of Iaşi

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Could you please indicate its location on the satellite image below (from Google Maps)? Thanks.

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Posted: July 23, 2006 09:46 am
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Oh boy, this is going to be fun. Will edit post when I find it. I do know it is near the big TV/Radio Antenna south of the city which is clear now but did have some woods back then. Befriended the park ranger there and he took me around the mountain. How did you like the pics by the way?
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Posted: July 23, 2006 10:19 am
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QUOTE (RHaught @ July 23, 2006 10:46 am)
Oh boy, this is going to be fun. Will edit post when I find it. I do know it is near the big TV/Radio Antenna south of the city which is clear now but did have some woods back then. Befriended the park ranger there and he took me around the mountain.

Then, if I am not mistaken, the location is somewhere around the yellow spot in the image below. Anyhow, if you can pinpoint it, please let me know.

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QUOTE (RHaught @ July 23, 2006 10:46 am)
How did you like the pics by the way?

I did like them very much. Thank you.
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Posted: July 23, 2006 10:22 am
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Carol
Follow todays main road out of Iasi to the south (to Vaslui). Go up the mountain until you see the antenna. This area was the HQ's observation area, the original HQ is where the present location of the rangers house is located. You can see the remains (floors) of 2 bunkers and the other one intact is storage area for wine. Saw this over the fence since he didn't allow me in.

I used 2 maps (1943 and 1944) so the primary roads and railroads then are secondary now and less travelled. these are the places I will be at next year.

Rob

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Carol I
Posted: July 23, 2006 10:45 am
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QUOTE (RHaught @ July 23, 2006 11:22 am)
Follow todays main road out of Iasi to the south (to Vaslui). Go up the mountain until you see the antenna. This area was the HQ's observation area, the original HQ is where the present location of the rangers house is located.

I think I am not very much mistaken. The road winds through the forest just east of the yellow spot. Thanks for the reply.
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Carol I
Posted: July 23, 2006 07:21 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ February 29, 2004 08:36 pm)
Finally, the third image I remember is a small clip from an old Russian documentary showing a Russian artillery piece in front of the same Administrative Palace that was shooting round after round. The whole clip was only a few seconds long and I could not make out the direction of their fire. I guess that they were shooting on a south-western direction over Bahlui valley towards Galata hill or Cetatuia hill (on the outskirts of Iasi) and not right at the palace. Short as it was, the clip indicates that there were still fights south of the former Copou line (unless the footage was only propaganda).

Now that we know the location of the German HQ in Bucium, it could be that the Russians in the old film clip were firing at it.
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