Efficient armed forces!

I wonder what has happend with Sweeden? If I remmber well I've put them to on the Poll. A well! One more thing, USA is on the poll - therfore nobody is trying to exclude them.

USA efficiency... i dont know - i dont like so much USA, but i like her advanced research and breacktrough in military technology... I found a news, and please, let me share it with you...

Northrop Grumman Encapsulation Technology Enables New Submarine Capability





"SAN DIEGO --- Northrop Grumman Corporation has successfully demonstrated a new technology, which will allow weapons and vehicles to be released from submarines even if they were not originally designed for undersea use.

During the U.S. Navy's recent Silent Hammer exercise, a simulated unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was successfully released from a submerged submarine to the sea surface using a low-cost, disposable encapsulation system. The demonstration was conducted on board the USS Georgia off the southern coast of California.

Developed by Northrop Grumman's Electronic Systems sector, the so-called Stealthy Affordable Capsule System, or SACS, is a modular encapsulation system that enables "non-marinized" UAVs and weapons to be launched from a submerged submarine. Without such technology, weapons and vehicles must be specifically designed to withstand underwater conditions.

"We are very pleased with the demonstration's results," said Navy Capt. (SEL) David Duryea, Silent Hammer program manager, Naval Sea Systems Command. "New technology demonstrated during the experiment will allow the U.S. Navy's submarine force to explore the feasibility of deploying an expanded set of weapons and UAVs, while significantly reducing the cost of developing ones specific for submarine use."

During the tests, Northrop Grumman successfully completed two commanded releases of the SACS from the submarine's missile tube and demonstrated the required capsule ascent and broach dynamics to launch a UAV from the surface. Another key achievement was that the vehicles' environments were maintained during release and travel to the surface.

"This is a major milestone in the SACS program," said Randy Yates, Northrop Grumman's Silent Hammer program manager. "SACS offers long-term storage capability, variable release depth, as well as the ability to encapsulate off-the-shelf small and large non-marinized equipment. Additionally, it provides the ability for UAVs to launch upon surface broach or to loiter before launch, increasing operational flexibility."

The demonstrations were conducted as part of the Navy's Silent Hammer sea trial, which evaluated the potential improvements to warfare capabilities offered by a clandestine sea base of networked undersea, surface, air and ground forces. During the exercise, joint forces conducted intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance in coordinated strike operations against a simulated enemy force on land and in a littoral battle space.

Northrop Grumman initially developed SACS with internal research and development funds. Further development of SACS is being conducted under an agreement from Naval Sea Systems Command for the Submarine Payloads and Sensors program. The company is a member of the Team 2020 Consortium that develops and demonstrates potential new technologies to maximize future submarine effectiveness.

Headquartered in Baltimore, Northrop Grumman's Electronic Systems sector is a world leader in the design, development and manufacture of defense and commercial electronic systems including airborne radar, navigation systems, electronic countermeasures, precision weapons, airspace management systems, communications systems, space sensors, marine and naval systems, government systems and logistics services. "

Source: Northrop Grumman


Iama

Pretty interesting stuff, Iama. Keep posting...

Why i choose UK?


A New Way to Do Business


Source: UK Ministry of Defence


"A new Private Finance Unit tasked with delivering successful PFI programmes for the MOD is launched today.

The Unit will have the role of overseeing all the MOD's PFI programmes, ensuring that all programmes represent the best value for money for taxpayers.

The Unit, which will help drive a programme to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of private finance procurement within the MoD, will provide a strong central focus for PFI policy and support within the Department and give greater transparency to the Department's future PFI programme. In addition, the new unit will have a much stronger and more expert role in shaping MOD's overall PFI programme as well as providing corporate assurance about individual projects. To help achieve this, Nick Prior, on secondment from Partnerships UK, will lead the unit.

The PFU will form closer, pro-active working relationships with industry. Key to its approach will be the establishment and operation of a PFI framework and assurance process whereby the viability and soundness of projects will be examined at crucial points well before projects are first considered by the Department's Investment Approvals Board. This in turn will result in improvements to the PFI bidding process that will lead to a reduction in the time and therefore the cost of negotiating a deal.

Defence Procurement Minister Lord Bach said:

"Our Armed Forces deserve the equipment they require to do their job effectively and taxpayers have the right to expect that the Government will procure that equipment in the most cost effective manner. This new unit will enhance the capability of the MoD to deliver privately financed programmes in an efficient and cost-effective manner."

The unit will also be responsible for implementing the Department's response to the policy developments arising out of the Treasury July 03 paper "PFI: Meeting the Investment Challenge" and April 04 Standardisation of PFI Contracts Volume 3 paper. "


Iama

I was gonna vote Israel but then I has second toughts.

This country's army is efficient because it's ruthless, cruel and shoots first (and asks no questions after)

-Demolishing homes whith 3 storey high buldozers - very efficient (best army)
Shooting Violent protesters with pencil bullets that make no noise or muzzle flash (best army)
-Target training for snipers on live Schoolgirls and Schoolboys (best army) (1st choice) (on a daily basis too, good for keeping fit)
-Rubber bullets training against live targets, and steel core rubber bullets training (often with the rubber removed) yes best army.
-Dropping bombs from F16, shooting rockets from Apache at car, home or mosque (Best Army) (1st Choice)
-Secret Service that assasinates, impersonates, infiltrates, interrogates...(very efficient) (a little cruel tough..)
- Tank Crew training against cars and ambulances in motion, (helps prepare the crews for the real thing on the battlefield!)
- Modern technology imported from abroad or developed locally (including biological weapons and plutonium bombs) [makes the army more confident, -they have nothing to loose]
- Tight censorship of the media and filmed material from the occupied territories makes the Soldiers confident and so less prone to second toughts when it comes to pressing the trigger.
- Biblical myths that the land from Syria to Jordan to Sinai belongs to a 'promised land' and that the arabs do not belong there and must be drived out - makes soldiers fight better, often blind and without restraint.

So, yes I vote Israel as the most efficient army, but only becase it has never come up against a real opponent, or one with a stronger will...
(And, because they are united and don't fight one another)
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However,..so far I've seen only Arabs that sacrifice themselves for that desert land they call their country. For the poor weapons and training they have, they compensate with a stronger will and courage.
Israeli Soldiers not only are very frightened and under stress when they enter the occupied territories, but also engage in narcotics, drugs...many refuse to serve in these territories alltogether - "Refusniks"
Superior equipment is all that keeps them going - they don't have the spirit of self sacrifice.

So for me, the better army is the one with the better men, courage of the individual, self sacrifice, stronger morals, stronger faith, fighting heroically for a just cause, and getting the admiration of other nations..
Not just big guns, tanks, planes, helicopters and Buldozers.
A nation's strength lies in it's morality. That is Israel's weakest point.

This post has been edited by Der Maresal on February 10, 2005 03:52 am

Which army is most efficient? That means brute firepower or strenght and will of the individual? A man that fights for his own country is stronger then 10 hired soldiers.
I think even the israeli army can be defeated, and I know how and who can do it.

I live under the impresion that you haven't read the first post on this thread.


This post has been edited by 88mm on February 10, 2005 07:04 am

I'm still wondering what happend to Sweeden. The Fins conquer it and I don't know yet.

The Germans in world war II. They are known for their efficiency.
Everything funcioned perfectly and was syncronized and made to work like one single machine. Germans deserve the word efficiency. But today.. what's left of their army...

In Afghanistan some romanian commander was impressed by US efficiency, especially logistics. Moving men, equipment, supply...

What about China? Why is it not on the list?
I don't know about it's modern army, but China has such a rich military past.
I read Sun Tsu, and about the battles of ancient china...men, horses, armor, spears, strict discipline, battles involving hundreads-of-thousands of men, horse archers, swordsmen...

It's a mistery about China's military, but under the right conditions the Chinese will prove resourcefull and ingenious..and highly effective and fearless at the same time. And they are so many... (they don't even have to fight you,..they just surrender to you and they have conquered you..)"

This post has been edited by Der Maresal on February 10, 2005 07:18 am

Generally that is what every army does and is. I never heard of an army talking its way on the battlefield or shooting last... If you know such an example, please contribute.

OK, maybe '48, '56, '67, '73 were just in my imagination. And those arab soldiers tanks and airplanes were holograms.

Right... one has to admire the incredible courage displayed by a guy which boards a bus full of unarmed people and blows it up. Sure. Great military courage too, not to mention the unbelievable tactical genious. Right...

I guess you never were in the military, otherwise you'd never say such a foolish thing. Generally staying alive is the goal and inflicting the largest amount of damage on the enemy while you are at it...
The goal of a country is to be strong enough to give the largest amount of protection to its troops, not to send them to the slaughter just to look good and boast about self-sacrifice! That would be stupid.
And technological superiority is part of war too. Who has it earned it through its own work and toil and is entitled to use it. Wouldn't you think?

Oh, come on... Whats so "better" about men that get whooped the moment they show up on the battlefield because they dont have the means but have the "stronger morals, faith etc."? 6 ft. under ground they can be as moral and faithful as ever, whats the use?
A nation's strength lies in its technology, resources and demography. And ofcourse its military leaders' know-how (military experience).
The rest its children's literature...

I agree with all saying Israel . I also state that Israeli Air Force has the most advance combat readiness and deterent task force in the world as well the most sophisticated conventional and non conventional F-16I and F-15I with longest range ever designed . Israel military can do it also without US help.....it manufactured own military jets , refurbishes a wide range military aircraft types, it has developed most sophisticated avionics and radars airborne platforms in the world which are used by USAF,USN,USMC , NATO and ultimately it has the most efficient long range anti ballistic interceptor missile in the world called HETZ ( Arrow) which is now in use only with IAF and USAF and is way beyond the abilities of the Patriot and anything similar . Last successful test was conducted in Hawai by USAF .

Alex

This post has been edited by alexkdl on February 10, 2005 03:39 pm

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An here for those who voted Israel, here is the most sophisticated F-16 Block 60 in the world the F-16I with longest range from all F-16 models

Courtesy: IAF

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F-15I Longest Range of all F.15 models, operated only by USAF and IAF evetually JDA later on

Alex

Photos IAF

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Here is the last post of mine on this topic, an IAF F-16I Block 60 pre flights his jet prior a training mission in the south

Alex


IAF courtesy

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Der Maresal, you are looking for it. Stop using such stupid generalizations and national insults. I suggest you pick up some serious books on the Eastern Front and learn more about the Red Army and its tactics. Also, this is the "Post-WW2" section, so try to fit into the time frame.